I have this weird problem where I can talk to this girl loads. We never not have nothing to say to each other. Never any awkward silences etc.

But I feel as its becuase I'm putting all my effort in to her I have nothing to say to her friends when she gets up and goes making the situation awkward. I always prefer to meet up with just her and me (which isnt a bad thing) but when she says her mates will be there or shall we invite blah blah blah I really hate it).

Like if I am at a bar with her and her friends are there too and she goes to the toilet for example I have nothing to say to her friends and I am just sat there all quiet like an AFC. I feel it brings the mood down.

I've had this problem for quite some time now. Even with guy mates, if theres 2 of us and the one im more friendly leaves the room I feel I have nothing to say to the other one. Its not that I dont like him. I just have nothing to say.

Maybe I am overthinking in these situations with "what can I say, what can i say, what can i say" resulting in my having nothing to say.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated!

Hey Devi4nt, sounds like you answered your own question. stop thinking 'what should i say...' and either talk about what ever is on your mind (something your passionate about), or try gaming the girls that your sitting with.

Have fun with it and see what you can come up with.

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hey man. i had that experience too. i understand what is like. but i overcame that problem not by asking myself "what can i say?" the real question "Why can't i just say anything i want?". big difference.

when doing game on a girl it is important about what the girl thinks of you, but what is of great value to her is the opinion of her friends. there's no reason why you can't interact with the friends. connect and get to know them. express how you feel and vocalize your insights and give them a refreshing conversational experience, and make them feel good about themselves. the results will be amazing, not only will they go to the girl you're interested in and tell her how wonderful you are, you may find that they will want to have you for themselves lol.

even with guys, do exactly the same thing. connect, empathy, make them feel good, tell them about some cool stories etc. the result of connecting with the guys will be that they will invite you out more, you will be perceived as the AMOG (alpha male of the group) and the guys will introduce you to some girls they know and they will do the work for you and DHV you.

concluding point: use your natural pua conversational skills on anyone and the results will be astronomical.

hope that i have helped. happy gaming dude

Thanks for the replies.

Yeah deff over thinking things. Been trying to stop this as of late. It seems counter productive becuase I am so used to overthinking things. My mind says how can not thinking about stuff so much give me the ability to have any input but it does actually work.

and thanks mickeyjackson21. Yeah its always improtant that her friends like you too. thanks for the advice! Will be putting it in to practice.