Ok imagine if a girl has a type, let's say she only goes for 'bad-boy' types, skinheads, tattoos...etc and a guy comes along trying to game her who's an 'indie boy' for example. Could he still close her? Also the other way about a bad boy trying to game a girl that likes indie boys?

I'm under the firm belief that this wouldn't be possible. Physically, she knows what she wants, and no amount of game could change that.

Have you ever heard a girl say 'he is not my type, but there is something about him...'.
Women have a multitude of types. Some women like skinny guys, some like 'rockers', some girls like nerds, others like men in suits. However, there is one universal trait that ALL women find attractive in men......'CONFIDENCE'. It IS possible to game a girl even if you are not her 'type', as long as you are confident about yourself, and what you want.

Does this mean that being confident is all you need to get a girl, not necessarily. But it does even out the playing field my friend

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lol if she's into skinheads, i don't know why you'd want to game her in the first place...

but i disagree with you. i've seen this happen first hand many times. it may be a steep hill to climb, but it is absolutely feasible

Lol the skinhead look was just an example!

What i mean is, there must be some sort of physical attraction. If a tramp learned textbook game, he wouldn't be successful.

Also, if a chav walked into an indie bar, he wouldn't be successful. This is my thinking.

I do agree with the "there's something about him" remark tho, a few girls have said that about me in the past, never really knew how to take it then. Obviously now i see it as a massive IOI.

Sure, physical attraction does play a part in attraction, but it's not nearly as important as you think.

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I go for the types I like.

Sometimes the girl tells me I'm exactly her type and she almost always goes for fair hair and skinned white guys.

But the other half of the time, they tell me I'm not their usual type at all, but there's "something about me" that made me different.

Basically, it doesn't fucking matter at all. Just go for whoever you think is hot.

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"types" go out the window when you just want a shag!

The type thing is a lie. She's telling you no, but not giving the real reason. This is especially true if changing to this "type" would be nothing more than a one hour makeover. Even if you did fix up, she'd just find another way to reject you.

So, you're right. With some girls, no amount of game will work.

It's hard to say.

Think about it. I don't really have a type, but I do know what I want from a girl. That isn't just appearance, but personality as well. The kind of things I look for in a woman.

Therefore, I'd settle for somebody that wasn't my type, I just know I probably wouldnt fall in love.

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Unless she tells your directly you're not her type just keep gaming and change her perspective. If she tells you that you're not her type (This is a shit test) just stare at her silently with wide eyes and make her feel silly. She will start telling you all the reasons why "You're a pretty boy I don't like that". When she's done say,
"oh yeah I'm probably not your type too bad for you," move on or neg her whateva feels right

If she tells you straight to your face in person "your not my type", that is a very blunt and solid rejection. It is not a "shit test" or some kind of game. She is essentially saying "go away".

I do not believe in persisting against a direct rejection like that, in fact it is a big negative that only reduces your chances for hitting on other women nearby.

You have to ask yourself, are you there for a battle with some strange woman who doesn't like you, or to find a woman that does like you ? This wanting to battle with one woman is not wanting to accept the rejection.

Types are real, and most people have one or two that we seem to go back to. I suspect that with women the type thing is stronger. Some women only date thugs, some only athletes, some say "I like a man in uniform" etc. and they are not lying.

I defer to one of the biggest pointers Mystery makes, time and time again:

ATTRACTION IS NOT A CHOICE.

Case in point.
Let's say we have a girl whos into "Bad Boys". 2 Guys approach her, one is a "Bad Boy" and one is a "Corporate, Suit and Tie" Guy.

1. The Corporate Guy opens solid, runs a solid game, and number closes.
2. The Bad Boy opens solid, has a weak game, and gets shut out.

Although I'm illustrating a point, this is a completely concievable scenario. When you calibrate yourself to be the "type" of the guy your target is looking for, all you are doing is earning "brownie points". If you stumble on your game a bit or have a weak open, your target will be more forgiving. However, just because you are her type doesn't mean she's going to give you her number. As a corollary, just because you AREN'T her type, doesn't mean she WON'T give you her number.

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True this could mean rejection sometimes, but not always. What is a rejection? If a girl walks away from you or turns her back to you while you're talking that is rejection.

If she says "you're not my type" and you manage it to avoid blowout then it was just a shit test. Happened to me last week and I didn't get blown out. If a girl is saying "go away" then you fucked up somewhere else in your game not just your "type" or presentation.