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A Sticking Point or SP is an issue you CONSISTENTLY run into.

It is NOT a point where you get stuck with ONE SPECIFIC GIRL.

A Sticking Point is:
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I keep getting LMR whenever I bring girls back to my place. This has happened at least 10 times already! What am I doing wrong?
A Sticking Point is NOT:
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I got LMR with this one girl! What do I do?
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If you have not already gone out and practiced enough to have a real Sticking Point from meeting an ABUNDANCE of women, YOU DO NOT DESERVE TO POST HERE.



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 8:57 pm 
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Hey guys,

This is a 2 month story i've been having going on, and its been pretty hectic. First of all, people need to know that I my worst attribute is being very very impatient. I usually do not spend more than 2-3 weeks gaming a girl, after which I move on.
I never game one girl at a time and I don't believe in "the one", because the past has shown me that one-eitis is a horrendous disease.
However, it looks like this time I kind of have this disease, since i've been "chasing" this girl for about 2 months (I put the word chasing in between apostrophe's because it hasn't always been a chase). Why haven't I let go of this situation and why haven't I just moved on to the next one? Well because, out of all the girls i've been with in the past, this one seems like something.

So, on to the story, i'll try to keep it real short because 2 months of gaming and seeing a girl 3 times/week can give you a lot of data.

Basically, this girl (lets call her Rachel) has been out of a 3-year relationship. Its been over for 4 months and she stayed single for 1 or 2 months just acting stupid before getting into a relationship with another dude, its been going on for about 2 months. She claims that she likes this relationship at the moment because she isn't in love with the guy and isn't addicted to him like she was with her last boyfriend (she is afraid of that because she really got hurt in the breakup).
She's a HB8, probably even more. I've been with hotter women in the past but this one just has something that add's on to her physique.

So, I meet this girl through a guy-friend that we have in common, before talking to me, she said that she did notice me, but thought I was an arrogant asshole. However, I got to sit down with her for about an hour in a bar and I was on the top of my game. She later confessed that she couldn't stop thinking about me since then.

I tell myself after 2 weeks, well, this all sounds fine and dandy, the girl is attracted, it looks like her boyfriend is on the way out, you should get her in no time.
Here comes the problem:
I'm also friends with her best(girl) friend, named Julie. I gamed Julie one night about a year ago, but didn't close, nothing, just talked, then never contacted her again or saw her. But apparently, she was completely digging me.
So, me (real stupid), think to myself: Hey, what if you went to get some lunch with Julie since she is in the same college and just try and win her friendship so that I can get Rachel's friends with me. It sounds like a good idea. And hey, be even more intelligent, bring a guy who she appears to be interested in! Rachel told me earlier that I absolutely needed to hook them up (this is very important information for the future).
So, I go for lunch, but unfortunately the other dude can't make it, so I think "hey, guys gotta eat anyway so lets go", VERY stupid mistake on my part. Because this girl thought "Oh my, he knew all along that that other dude wouldn't be coming and just wanted to get a date with me."
Ugh, I never take girl's I like to lunch...
So we eat, and I try to slip some stuff and hint that I like Rachel, and we have a good time, but she is always saying stuff like "yeah but she isn't available", I thought it was fishy. At one point, I finally understand that this girl likes me when she starts talking about her family and says "Oh, I really need you to understand that the rumors on my father aren't true! He isn't scary at all and is really lovely" or something like that. At that moment I told myself "Oh shit, she's talking about her family, trying for me to accept them. I'm screwed."

So, I later discover that Julie, is really really digging me, and has been for a friggin YEAR. She is apparently has trust issues and all that crap and is rarely after a dude. Lucky me i'm her pick. She is pretty fine, HB8 aswell, and I would definitely have tried to bang her had I not met Rachel.


So, Rachel and I continue to be close and build attraction, but one day after I saw Julie, she starts acting weird, distant and cold. I thought "wtf is going on here, this girl was running after me and now doesn't give a damn".
I ignore her for a while and finally she comings running back, to tell me "Hey, your great, but I don't want it to be weird between us, I have a boyfriend."
At that time, I just dive in (she had used to bfriend line a couple of times but I would always ignore it or shoot it down aka "Oh great he can cook us breakfast in the morning") and tell her that I don't understand, that I thought we had something interesting going on and more crap, she boldly says that she has no feelings for me but would like to stay friends because she "doesn't want to lose me".
I say: No way José, its all or nothing, and in your situation, its good-bye.
At 4am that night she texts me:
"I can't sleep".
I then understood that all of this was a lie.

The back story of all this (Rachel later told me this when we had a huge conversation) is that Rachel was really into me, and that she heard that Julie was into me aswell, but couldn't resist the idea of continuing to talk to me and be attracted, until after the lunch when Julie called her and they had a huge fight about how "she was such a b***h for talking to me and stuff and that she probably acted like a whore or whatever around me to get my attention". Rachel downplayed it and said she had no feelings and that we were just friends. So Julie asked her to tell me that she wasn't interested, etc etc.

More weeks go by, and I (who ceased contact) just move on with my life, but this Rachel girl just keeps coming back. I keep ignoring her, being really brief when she talks to me, and just living up to my word - aka no more attention for you.

One night, i'm completely drunk and she offers to drive me home. In the car, we talk for about 2 hours, and she tells me everything, that she had feelings for me but can't be with me because it would break her life-long friendship with Julie (who 2 years earlier had a similar situation and haven't talked to the girl since).
I tried to kiss her but she was resisting, and I didn't want to act like an asshole raping her. She did kiss me in the neck and all that crap and we were cuddling and shit.
Finally I told her "ok, well, please stop coming back to me and leave me alone if we can't be together". Then I left the car.

So then, more weeks of "ignoring" her go on. The big difference between this time and before is that I absolutely have lost all the feelings I had for her. I am completely off the hook and have no interest in her anymore.
Don't answer texts such as "I dreamed about you last night twice! Please stay out of my head tonight!" or "I just saw a cute picture of you :)" or "Hmmm your wearing only your undies? I'm going to come over and steal those!".
In my mind, she was just interested in the attention and hated that I wasn't running after her anymore, so she needed me to be again.

One night, she took my adress and said she would come over to my house after my football practice was over so that I would "have some company to eat" since I was alone. I completely forgot to text her after practice and got home late. She texted me asking where I was and when she could come over. I said that I had forgotten but could pass by her house now because I had some friends in a bar nearby I was going to go meet with.
So I get to her house at 11pm, at first she is kind of cold, but then she completely bursts on to me, giving me loads of attention (she had her hands under my shirt, in my hair, she was kissing me everywhere, hands brushing my body at all times), and we were in each others arms. But I didn't want to be to touchy touchy with her. I could see her pupils being extremely wide.

She told me:"I'm having a hard time to resist."
Me: "Resist to what, I not doing any moves."
Her: "Resist to jump on you"

So we DON'T make out (damn that has NEVER happened to me I felt like a pussy) but are like one inch of each others lips, always keeping the temptation. Sometimes she's the one pulling back, and sometimes its me (didn't want to be the freakin idiot always trying to kiss her).

We talk for hours, and she tells me that she has strong feelings for me, but feels like i've changed, and aren't interested anymore. She says that she envision's us in the future, how we should just run away from our problems and move to Alaska with each other.

I finally leave at 3 am and am PISSED that I didn't even kiss her.

So, being pissed, the next day I she asks what i'm up to in the evening and I tell her that i'm either going to a birthday or to a girls place who invited to cook me some diner. She gets pissed obviously, because she thinks I told her bullshit one day earlier then go fuck another girl. I say "hey, take control of your life, you could end the shit I have going on if you wanted to, just speak with Julie and dump your boyfriend ;)".

So, I do realize that it was kind of a bitch-move to tell a girl you have feelings for her then 2 days later go see another chick.
I appologize and she goes off on me about "how can I trust you and know you won't hurt me and go off with another girl if you pull shit like that?".

So Thursday, she calls me and keeps me on the phone until 3am, and we talk again about our feelings and how we both are so much into each other, but that the timing sucks and that she is afraid to talk to her friend and lose her. About how she tried to talk to her about a similar situation but got a bad feedback and got afraid to continue and tell her the truth. And how she got cold feet after how I acted over the week-end. So, we end the conversation kind of in a fight, with me frustrated because she is telling me that she has strong feelings for me, that she thinks about me all day and can't work, that she feels bad because she isn't cheating on her boyfriend physically but is cheating with her feelings. About how she wants to be with me, but is AFRAID to speak to her friend.
And this really frustrates me because if this girl really is her friend she should understand and want her best-friend to be happy. Apparently Julie is a complete child and will get pissed.

So, thats kind of where we are. We've been briefly talking for the past days (she sent me some cheesy horoscope shit about how both our signs would make such a great couple), she also told me she was afraid because he grandpa was going through stuff, but was "sorry she shouldn't have told me about this". I didn't want to be a wuss and be the dude she cries on, but I also thought that I had too be there for her in though moments and so I comforted her and told her it would be ok but that she should probably be telling stuff like this to her boyfriend or another good friend.
The point is, she wanted to tell me stuff like that because obviously she care's about me.

Tomorrow we are going to the same party, and a friend invited her, she asked who was coming and he just said "the only boy you like, I don't need to tell you anymore guests", she answered "true :) i'll be there".


So, right now i'm asking myself. HOW can I get out of this miss. I truly like this girl, and it seems that these feelings are mutual. But how can I get this girl to talk to her friend. I can't make her jealous (because I will look like an unstable douche and cause trust issues all over again).
Should I be a little distant/cold when I see her?

I'm really confused, because I like this girl and would like for her to tell that girl.

What do you guys think?


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 1:40 am 
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FUCK!!!
I have nothing to say, i'm not gonna say get over your oneitis
most i can say is tell her to tell her friend, seeing as she does not talk to you, there should be a point her friend will get over you maybe introduce your friend


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FUCK!!!
I have nothing to say, i'm not gonna say get over your oneitis
most i can say is tell her to tell her friend, seeing as she does not talk to you, there should be a point her friend will get over you maybe introduce your friend
Hey man, thanks for the answer, I know its a long read.

Her friend is probably already over me since she understands that i'm not interested, however, she would be pissed at the idea of Rachel & me, thats the issue..


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 11, 2010 11:11 am 
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Closed her last night.

Ball is in her camp now I guess.


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