The long and the short of it:

First step: Girl and I start talking

Second step: Start flirting (among the many things that take place are asking the "getting to know you" questions, c/f type banter, physical contact usually in the form of hitting and other playful contact...etc.)

Third step: Girl stops talking to me completely. Not even so much as a casual "hello". She makes it quite obvious, and while I agree that no two women are alike, it seems as if every girl does the EXACT SAME THING to me!

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I'm always left completely mystified (although I never show it on the outside).

This makes no sense to me because it isn't as if I say things to give me away (like admitting feelings or sh*t like that), and I always do my best to keep my cool/remain indifferent to the outcome (read: not give a sh*t...it's a game of not only numbers, but patience).

Usually when I get to this point, one of two possibilities cross my mind:

1) The girl is playing hard to get and wants me to take it further
2) The girl got the attention she wanted from a guy she was (mildly) interested in, thus the challenge and mystery are over, and now she moves onto the next challenge.

Once I hit this "fork in the road", I decide that it's not worth pursuing further, so I just drop the whole thing and ignore her in kind (and ironically repeat the same cycle with another girl).

Does anyone else have the same problem?

Corey#8-Lol,I have to laugh because of the irony.

This always happens to me and it bewilders the shit out of me.

Just 3 weeks ago,I gamed a girl on Facebook,eventually met up at a bar,where she was actually bartending to fill in for me brother(it's a family owned business).

Anyway,I bantered,we flirted,we teased,at one point as she was tending to customers,I would similate eating her out by sticking out my tongue at her.

The vibes were fucing great & sexual.

I wasnt able to take it further since she was worikng so I left.

Seen her at the same bar the next week,Im friggin' like a stranger!

She just stops talking to me,be it online or at the bar she works part time.

But I get it now.I dug deep for some theories.

It comes down to(BT)buying temperature.

We would think BT is a good thing to happen(the girl gets turned on or horny).

When a girl hits buying temperature,her 1st instincts is to flee-get way from this dangerous guy.

Dangerous in the sense as,he knows his shit.

When gaming girls and you know your stuff and your actually getting her turned on,this' what goes through her mind:

HB:"This guys' gonna fucking lay me if I dont break state and cut him off"!

HB:"He knows what he's doing and he's driving me wild.I wanna fuck him but I cant so I have to fee".

She wouldnt flee from an AFC nor guys who she knows would not lay her.

This mainly occurs with girls you've just met and just started gaming.

Their instincts are to flee before you lay them.

Their brains are frying with horniness,so they have to cut it off.

So,what is the solution-to not get her horny & turned on?

Not really.

But general rule is,never get a girl intensely turned on when you know you cannot lay her on the spot(bad logistics).

If you just met a random girl at a bus top,gamed her and made her hit BT,she will flee fast!!

She will come up with all the excuses for her to go,even if she wasnt really going anyway.

The fact that you cannot lay her at the bus stop,she has no choice but to break sate and flee.

That's why you should never make a girl hit intense BT if you're not in a seduction location or you cannot lay her on the spot.

Now,there may be other theories,some less psycological than this,but this I believe it is.

Her circuits are fried from you turning her on so much that they see they must cut you off,ignore you because you're 10 seconds from laying them.

Women dont do this to nice guys and AFC's.

Because AFC's cannot make them horny and hit BT,so she will never cut off an AFC,just string him along like a puppy and give him fale hope because she deems him harmless.

But guys like Corey#8 & I(lmao),she will not give a second chance to o easily.

So the lesson of this is,do NOT get her horny or turned on unless you can seal the deal soon after.

If you allow her to break state by hitting intense BT,she will flee,avoid you and ignore you.

I literally have about 20 HB's currently stopped talking to me because of this.

I know I cant lay them tonight(they live in other countries),so I'd just make them hit BT via sexual vibes,then they'd cut me off(lol)and stop talking to me online.

For the record,I didnt originate this concept of buying temperature;I dont know who did.

But I read it from Tyler Durden's stuff about 5 years ago.

It made me realize why women would suddenly stop talking to me after we've had major friggin' good vibes(sexual).

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My point here isnt to not get girl horny.

It's,"Dont get the girl horny if you know there's no way you can lay her".

Example:

You're gaming a cashier on her duty,some how,you managed to enter seduction phase and made her hit buying temp' and get turned on.

But remember,she's on duty at work.

She cannot just leave her counter and run off with you for a fuck.

So essentially,you cannot lay this girl soon(within 30 minutes),if her shift still has more than an hour to go.

So if you were to say,give me your #,and if you get it with the intentions of laying her after work(5 hour from now)-it wont happen!

By that time,her BT would have went down and she would be out of state.

So if you try calling her 5 hours later with the same sexual intentions,she wont answer,or she will find an excuse to hang up.

Why?

She's now out of state(sexual)that you'd put her in.

Women get thrown out of state by various things:her girlfriends,an external interrupt,and mostly via time.

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That might explain the problem with random girls I meet (and yes, I realize now that kino escalation right out of the gate is good...no need to stand there with my hands in my pocket like a simp), but I'm wondering about "warm" situations like co-workers or fellow students.

I've had many a co-worker flirt with me one day, and then the next day it's as if I'm not even there, and I wonder wtf?

Going off of what you just posted, is it possible to re-ignite that temperature? How would you go about "warm" situations like this?

If it were a bar or club, it's no problem...you take them to a corner of the bar and start making out instantly.

Warm situations like with co-workers.

This' slight different that hitting BT.

Simple flirting,like at work,cannot make a girl's BT go up.

Intense SPAM(clubs),light,drinks(alcohol)and sex vibes are what raise BT.

Work enviornment doesnt provide enough stimulus to raise BT.

It just comes down to state(mental).

Women throw themselves in & out of various states like mad ppl.

Not moods,but trance-like states.

Girls can suddenly(next day)dissassociate themselves from the flirty state the previous day.

That's whats happening-it's nothing peronal.

They just fall in & out of states,whereas a man would say to himself,"WTF,we flirted like cats a dogs yesterday-I wanna continue".

Another linked issue is her ASD(anti-slut defense).

No woman wants to be labeled a slut,a flirt or easy.

So her ASD kicks in when she's snapped out of state.

So she flirts today at work,goes home,reflects on her day,feels slutty for flirting,so the next day,her ASD is activated where she pretends to not remember flirting with you yesterday.

If you were to(stupidly)bring it up,she would become ultra-defensive and even claim,"I never flirted with you".

So to your point of re-igniting that state.

You should never verbalize it by saying,"I like the flirty play yesterday".

Treat it as though it never happened!

We men make the mistake to want to remind the girl of when she was in a sexual or flirty state,thinking we can continue from where we left off.

But the girl does NOT want to remember that state,however good it might've felt.

So to re-ignite things:never remind her,and pretend as though it never happened(as she's doing),then just do it all over again,then whenever the state's broken(next day,etc),pretend to forget,then re-initiate the flirty vibes.

BTW,this' more for co-workers,fellow students,etc.

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Few years ago,I laid a girl who works at an election- polling station.

About 4 weeks after laying her(maybe 3 times),I stopped by her station on business.

I usually flirt with 1 of her co-workers.

So her co-worker says to the HB10(who I'd laid),"He's so hot,isnt he"?

The HB10 said,"Please,I wouldnt pay him any mind if you paid me to".

What!!!!?

Humor is one thing,but this witch was dead serious!!

I was furious inside!

I said to myself,"Bitch,I just laid you few weeks ago,plus you have a bf-how slutty"!

Obviously the sex wasnt the problem because I'd laid her 3 times.

I couldnt believe my ears!

Then I searched my PU archives later on and ran across articles I'd downloaded by Tyler Durden,about state control & BT and how women can suddenly dissassociate themselves from an act as though it never happened.

So I said to myself,"This witch doesnt remember I laid her ass 3 times"?

Of course she remembers,but her ASD was activated to convince her that she isnt a slut.

So she tries to cut herself off from our sexual encounters.

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FUCK that's why this hb9 doesn't talk to me anymore i took her to a club got her so horny once but never fucked.
thnaks for the info k-loc

@Farismagic-Lmao,I get what you saying bro'.

Im still trying to come to grips with this and get it hard-wired in my head.

Rather than keep making mistake of getting girls horny then have them cut me off.

The messed up thing about this is that even if you'd laid the girl,ther's still chance of her dissassociating herself from you.

That's why I advise,if you're not going to lay her then,do not get her turned on(intensely),it will friggin' backfire and she will cut you off.

This happened to me just last week on Facebook.

I met an HB9.2 via mutual friends.

She's from UK,Im from the Caribbean.

No chances of me laying her(now)since we're in different countries.

As a test run,I connected solidly with her,excellent vibes.

I then had cyber sex with her;well actually we talked dirty to each other,fantaies and all.

So she's in state;if I were in her town,I could drive over and lay her while she's still in this sexual state.

So I gave her my # and told her to call me.

She claims she will,and she's adamant about it-all this while she's still in state.

4 days after,I ever received a call from her.

She ignores my online chats.

Eventually replies after about 6 days.

Me:"Why didnt you call? I was waiting to hear your voice".

HB:"I just dont feel like calling,and Im not gonna call".

I never expected her to call,and I went all AFC'ish on her since I truely didnt want to game her-just testing out the buying temperature theory.

So,she stops talking to me-as I expected.

Guy,this has literally happened to me on Facebook more than 15 times with 15 different girls in December alone!

I know it would happen,but I just didnt grasp why until Corey#8 wrote this post which made me dig into my mental-archive of female psycology.

I wrote a post about a sexy MILF I'd met via Facbook 4 weeks ago,asking "why is she now ignoring me"?

Same process:we connected,got sexual,she hits buying temperature,next day(s)she ignores me,I inbox her,she doesnt reply at all.

It's been over 4 weeks,and this MILF I had a great -flirty connection with cuts me off!!?

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K-LOC

You managed to fantasticly mis-manage the concept of BT.

You want the girl horny, it's incredibly important to PU that she thinks of you as sexual.

This a problem largely with rapport and bonding and also closure.

It may be that the girls are flirting heavily and sexually with you and becuase you don't close and build enough trust between the two of you, she feels guilty and compensates by ignoring you completely.

BTW: How old are the girls that you're gaming?

From K-Loc's post(s), I can basically see that it's pretty much option #1, which is that these girls that I flirt with want me to take it further...but when the time to rise approaches, and I don't take responsibility, they then go cold on me.

And it sounds like it's really hard to bring them back into that state. Kind of brings credence to the thought that this really is a game of patience AND numbers.

And to the post above me, the age range is from 20s to 40s. I don't see what that has to do with it though...

Women are women.

That said, how do you handle it if you want to deal with these girls again?

You want the girls to think of you in a sexual way, so surely it can't be a one-shot deal, right?

I mean, it IS possible to to turn them on and have sex with them LATER on (I've done it before, but it was luck, not with skill as I'm trying to cultivate now).

@Fin-Dfinitely you want her to see you as sexual being.

I agree with you 100%,it's a combo of not enough comfort(rapport)and not closing.

I admit,in my case(online),I dont commit to comfort building nor do I close.

I have no issues on sealing the deal in person.

Thats' Corey #8's problem.

I agree with you again,the girl will feel guilty(ASD) and shy away.

Girls I game are usually 25 .

I love to game MILF's also(38 and up).

@Corey#8-It's really hard to bring them back once a girl's gone cold on you.

I usually give u on them intantly.

But with s.o.you'll see daily(co-worker,class mate),you can always re-ignite it by starting all over.

But there's no shot with a girl you'd # closed last night,made her hit BT but didnt lay.

She will flake the hell out of you until you eventually give up.

Only other chance with the club girls as above is to just happen to bump into them by chance at the club/bar again.

Chances of that is slim-depending on population & timing.

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The part in bold is the most important to me.

With club/bar girls, I know that it's pretty much a one-shot, right-here-right-now, type of deal.

Either you close it there, or forget that girl.

From there, it's on her to decide if she wants to see me again...no skin off my nose either way.

So in your case Corey,it's a co-worker or class mate?

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Co-Worker.

Personally, I'm at the point where I need to just gradually make each interaction with her more and more sexual.

Tonight I finally brought up the topic of sex, she talked about it casually with me, but it didn't have the effect I thought it would.

I still think it's a gradual thing, it's just that by bringing it up (casually) you're acting less like a friend and more like a potential lover.

Rapport wouldbe the focus, flirting in public while fun, does build great rapport, in fact it can damage your chances with her if it ruins your image as someone "safe".