Okay, so here's the deal. I think I have a pretty solid game. I can successfully go out and number close and recently I've been full closing. I know that my "solid game" does have flaws though; there is always room for improvement. I just need a little help finding what I did wrong. Here's the story:

Last night I went out with some bros, me being the only guy who uses "pick up". I met this girl that we will call Megan. Her and I hit it off and everything was great. I got invited back to her dorm and I full closed her. She was told me how she thaught I was "different" than other guys and she enjoyed hanging out.

Tonight, I was going out to another club with my wing and some other friends and I ran into her before hand. She said she wasn't going out and asked if I was. I told her some friends and I were going to a club and she should tag along if she didn't want to stay in tonight. She agreed to go out with us after a short conversation.

Before we went to the club, I told my wing I had her the night before and she was coming out with us. He said it was cool and he would be fine with me not so much gaming but hanging out with Megan. Some time at the club passed and everything was going smoothly. There was a lot of kino and flirting between me and this girl. We danced a little, she was buying me drinks and everyone was having a great time. My wing was gaming her too and also going to other sets. I also decided to socialize and open other sets.

After about 4 hours at this club, most of the group decided they wanted to leave and Megan agreed to go with me. She put on her coat and right as we were leaving my wing grabbed her hand and said "I'm staying here for a few more drinks, you should join me." She let go of my hand and agreed to have a few more with him. The problem was, I was leaving with a group of people and felt obligated to walk a few of the girls in the group home [they are close friends and asked me to make sure they got home safely]. A few minutes went by while others in the group gathered their belongings. When I went to say bye to my wing, he was making out with Megan despite knowing I was going for round two. Fine. I stuck with my promise and walked the girls home in my group.

About five minutes later I got a phone call from my friend X. He said Megan invited my wing back to her place and he was going. I didn't let it bother me too much until I really thought about it right now. My wing KNEW I was going for round two and he AGREED it was fine and he would sarge around. So now I'm sitting here kind of realizing that my wing screwed me over. The reason I am sitting here writing this is because my wing went home with the girl I got last night. No, I'm not attached to her, it's just I feel my wing screwed me over. Right now I should be with Megan doing my thing, but instead he is.

I guess this is more of a venting rant than anything, but I just wanted to know what you guys think about a wingman screwing you over. Has it happened to anyone else even though it was CLEAR the girl was yours? I am wondering if maybe me opening other sets and flirting around turned her off, my wingman just doesn't care and wanted her anyways, maybe I was boring her , or maybe she is just a s*** and it has nothing to do with me or my wing.

How should I approach my wing about it? I have more than one wing here at college [actually 4 guys who study PUA] so maybe I should not sarge with him. I talked to my other wing about it a little bit ago and he thinks I should sit him down and express in a nice way that what happened wasn't cool. As for her, she was just being a typical girl I suppose and I should let it go. I don't want to hear "sarge more girls and it's fine" because I have plans with a different wing tomorrow night.

If this happened to you guys, what would you say to your wing? Would you mention anything to "Megan" tomorrow when you unavoidably see her? I've never been screwed over by a wing before and this guy was the last I expected. Any ideas would be appreciated. Sorry for the novel by the way.

This happens all the time when me and my cousin go out. If I show interest in a woman, he will immediate sarge her to his full potential, just to steal her. Sometimes he can, sometimes he just ruins it for me. Either way he can't just step aside a let me do my thing. I have come up with a theory of why he, and guys like him, do this.

A) When you show interest in a woman, you give her social proof. Suddenly she seem much more attractive to your friend because he has verified proof that she is a higher quality woman, she is preselected (yes, it works both ways).

B) You have given him social proof to her, by showing that he is a friendly and popular guy.

C) You have warmed her up for conversation and turned her on, prior to introducing him. Basically you've done all the hard work and all he has to do is come in at the end and close.

D) He is a pathological narcissist and deep down he is very insecure about himself. He views other people's success as his own failures. He is not happy unless he is the alpha dog with the most of everything. He can't stand when someone is better at something than him, and will compete to prove he is better. He doesn't sarge to get women, he sarges so that other people will see him getting women. You are a threat to him. Your game is stronger than his and he knows it. It makes him angry that your better than him, and deep inside he probably resents you for it. A lot of Amogs are like this. This competitive drive and overinflated pride is what compels all of their life's decisions.

There is a thing called trust. More importantly, there are also these things called boundaries. He broke both of them.

Your buddy is an insecure validation seeker. He is also a dumb ass for jeopardizing his entire social circle for the sake of a random hookup.

The best quality in a wing isn't always skill, sometimes its about being a man, and having all the virtues that come with it. If I were you, I would show myself to be a man by not tolerating this bullshit.

Wings are there purely to help each other in sets, help logistically, and encourage each other. Any wing that is going to actively compete with you is someone you don't want to wing with.

Unless he is a close friend, I think you'd be doing yourself a disservice by not making him find a new wing.

Me and my best friend go to college together hes the frat brother and I am the college athlete. Most of the time we talk it out through the night who is feeling what girl and what not. But we are straight up with each other since we've known each other for 6 years now. If the girl that he is flirting with is giving me IOI he'll tell me mostly to go for her but I fall back since hes my best friend. There are plenty of times when we saved each others ass with cockblockers and occupying the mother hens of the group. I would talk to your wing and tell him you dont tolerate that shit. If he doesnt compromise, move on since you have 4 other wingmans who are knowledgeable about pua.

If he is your friend then he "was" your friend. U shouldnt trust him for anything again and let him know about it. Bros before hoes as they say. If he cant roll with that hesnt a bro. This story also proves something I sometimes think: that pua is bullshit and u just have to be lucky enough to find the girl that is horny enough to fuck that night. Seems like when women get out for sex it doesnt really matter who it is or what he ll say.They just want some basic stuff.

Thanks for the replies guys. I think you guys are completely right. Kalel, I see what you mean in your points. I have no intentions on going out to sarge with him in the future. I have plans to go out to another club tonight with my other wing who knows of the situation and thinks it was bull, so I know he will be both a wing and a man about things.

This happened to me once.

The next day, I pulled the guy aside and said, "What you did last night was NOT cool. There is no ill will on my part about it."

"BUT IF YOU EVER DO THAT AGAIN, I WILL RIP OFF YOUR NUTS AND SHOVE THEM DOWN YOUR THROAT!"

I haven't had a problem with him nor anyone we mutually know since.

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It's just awkward because we all live in the same dorm building. Like even tonight I went to the clubs again with my bros and her and her friends were there. She came up to me all touchy and she bought me a few drinks. We danced and she said she was happy I ran into her there. Two hours later, my old wing shows up and does his thing again.

This time though, I was cool with it. I mean, I did nothing wrong, I had a fun time with her a few nights ago, and everything is good. I can't complain. She is a good dancer and bought me drinks. It was a no strings attached relationship and I'm fine with it. I'm a good looking guy and I met a few other girls tonight. I realized now that I ranted because I was caught off guard and it was real sudden. Looking back, it's whatever. Life goes on and I just know better than to sarge with him next time. Life's good

Think of it this way man, what self respecting girl would do that.

Shes a slut!