Ok so there is this girl who caught my attention for a while since i started college. I havn't really seen her much around so we didn't really talk often. But now since i was introduced to pua and with some (a little) experience I came and talked to her with friends at first and had a great time. now we soon later we went to the bus i began putting up the high fun in state energy and she was feeding off of it making her laugh and such. With a touching leaving it PG at the moment and i walked her home and got her number. I didn't kiss her because she was talking to someone and i didn't want to push it plus we really just hung out that one time so i felt it would been to fast to that to her again i'm new to this.

Now this is what i'm wondering i should do. she said she is talking to somebody and that she likes him but she is taking it slow. From what she told me he is around the same age as me and the same stature with money and transportation. I'm not worried i won't be able to get her from him but i'm worried if this back fires should i becarful going in. In college were in the same club and so we have the same friends so i'm worried if this ends bad i'll be going through a bit of hassles and such (though that whole part is very unlikely) the guy in is not in the same circle of friends as me and her. If he was i would leave her alone.

What i want to know in pua rules is this wrong to do. Morally i can live with doing this and doesn't really affect me but as a pua is it ok? i feel confident and even if it doesn't work i can move on no problem.

My rule is, if you don't know the guy: Game on.

Even though she is what would be characterized as "fair game", you don't want the extra BS of having to deal with a guy that both of you know. It just complicates everything x 1000.

Her telling you that she likes him "but I'm taking it slow", to me, is an indication that she is keeping an open mind. If she's not feelin you, she's just sayin "I'm seeing a guy right now." If she loves the attention, so what? Its still an opening you can exploit.

Regarding morality, don't worry about this one. The moral aspect of these decisions hinge on whether anybody close to you is getting hurt. Decisions are made everyday, people are dumped every day, people fuck every day...everything in life is pretty fluid so if it feels right, go for it man. Worst case scenario, it doesn't work out. But an awkward situation is as awkward as you make it, so just be an adult and go on about your business if things hit the fan.

alright thanks man this helped me out and as for knowing the guy i've met him once or twice but nothing more so i'm going for it! It's game on! >:)

Great advice by RiRi. Also, her saying 'he & i are taking it slow' is potentially an indication that she has an AFC trailing her and she possibly wouldn't mind a guy (you) to come in and sweep her off her feet i.e. escalate & fuck her.

ok thanks again but i don't really know how to close since i actually never done it. alot of openers but no closes before i really want to know how to or atleast to get a idea of how to close i watch rsd freetour and rsd julien and tyler and learned alot but as far as closing almost no exp.

Closing, at a certain point, is more about gathering the balls to do it than the actual execution.

If its your first time, it won't go perfectly, trust me on that. But the performance isn't something you should be worrying about too much...why? because you aren't sure what success looks/feels like.

I'm assuming you want to f close right? Have you kissed closed yet?

Once the kiss is established, you aren't too far away from the f close. Do you have a plan regarding WHERE you want this to go down? Her place? Yours? Get your logistics on point first so you know the situation. If you let the situation play itself out (especially with a lack of exp), you may get flustered and/or your plan derailed.

So what I would do is figure out everything other than the actual execution of the close: logistics, personal appearance etc.

Get the kino going early in the meet-up so you can "prep" her for later (by making her comfortable with you touching her). This way, she'll be so used to being in contact with you (on even a playful level) that she'll feel much more comfortable kissing you...thus feeling comfy about getting railed by you. Just get the kiss in and the rest will happen naturally.

Good luck.

Ok thanks so very much i didn't think of my place or her place at all! And i understand the concept of trail/error so i will go for it thanks.