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A Sticking Point or SP is an issue you CONSISTENTLY run into.

It is NOT a point where you get stuck with ONE SPECIFIC GIRL.

A Sticking Point is:
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I keep getting LMR whenever I bring girls back to my place. This has happened at least 10 times already! What am I doing wrong?
A Sticking Point is NOT:
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I got LMR with this one girl! What do I do?
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If you have not already gone out and practiced enough to have a real Sticking Point from meeting an ABUNDANCE of women, YOU DO NOT DESERVE TO POST HERE.



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 7:53 am 
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So I am mainly an online player right now. I have picked up a number of SB8s off of OKC and POF recently. The latest one just has me twisted about my game.

So I meet this chic online - she's smokin', rich, cool, smart, funny. She agrees to meet for a drink. We get together and hit it off (she's 15 years younger but doesn't seem to care). I definitely have built some attraction. Then she wants to go to another bar so we go and her friends are there. They are cool - kinda nerdy but cool.

Anyway, we sit down in a booth and I can feel the attraction disappear. Some ugly dude who is obviously a PUA comes into our booth and starts working her right there. She is somewhat attracted. He barely even says anything but I can tell she's more attracted to him than me (and I am way better looking).

I can't get it back after that. My mind starts freezing up. Then he asks me to pick a song any song I want to hear from the DJ. I fucking freeze like a moron. I can't answer - she answers for me. Beginning of end.

Date that started with serious sexual attraction and chemistry ends with a "it was nice meeting you" hug.

I seem to have this pattern -- I tend to build a lot of attraction at the beginning of the date, run out of things to say or get kind of awkward in the middle and end up turning them off.

I don't think I'm mental and I have everything going - looks, money, engaging/ funny stories but something just clicks and I either shut down or can't put on the after burners to really close the deal.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 9:18 am 
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I think your mistake here was deciding to "hang out" with her friends rather than keeping her in isolation in the context of a date.

If you struggle with keeping things going then a formal system like MM or Magic Bullets might give you a useful outline until you've internalised the basic ideas to the point where you no longer need a formal structure.

Alternatively, if you prefer the 'natural/direct' approach, keeping in mind the idea of escalating and bouncing her back to yours during the high point of the interaction could help.

Good luck man 8)


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 9:17 pm 
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I think your mistake here was deciding to "hang out" with her friends rather than keeping her in isolation in the context of a date.
This! Never let the girl plan the date and NEVER do anything that involves hanging out with her friends (it's always a trap). Hanging out with her friends puts you in a situation where she has all the social proof and you have none.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 4:20 am 
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Thanks Wolf. Yeah, she didn't tell me her friends were going to be there until we walked in.

So question - the first half of the date was rockin'. Serious chemistry. We played pool and I let her win and then schooled her on the second game. I was rubbing her leg at one point and she was giving me pretty much all the signs of attraction. I had her cracking up the whole time. She was also DTF on her profile so she's a high value target for me right now.

At this stage, is there something I could text her to salvage a shot at date #2? Maybe she'll forget the schmucky stuff in the second bar?

Something like: "Hey, it was fun hanging with you the other night despite the weirdness at the end. I would do it again". OR

"You're a fun girl. Too bad I was falling asleep at the Tiki Bar. Serves me right sleeping 4 hours the night B4".

Any other ideas?


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