Hey Bro's, I have like a solid game compared to my other friends at school and out n about. So, here's the deal, I have been able to pick up girls for a number close occasionally but I don't seem to be able to turn it into a Kiss close.

Possible Reason: I'm 15 going on 16 this summer, Is it because I'm at a quite young age?

Now, I tend to not go for ''pasted-up'' girls or any ''skets'' (girls who use waay to much make-up and sluts) even though they are likely to be in both categories are both. These are the easy girls (in this generation you could F-close them in a 20min convo), I do not want them cause I frankly hate skets (Used at 12, no thx).

So could you guys give any advice into making the shift from number closing to kiss closing on those natural 8s n above. Haha feel like such a noob asking for advice but I frankly don't know.

Cheers,
Kyzn

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I think 15 is way too young to be in pick up, but whatever man, it's your choice.

Without details on how you go about gaming, there isn't really much to say. Whats your usual way to get to the number close?

lol, perhaps I am, but hey, the more experience the better right?

Well, on the way I number close is, from an overview, I start with a compliment opener(direct I know, but works)as I'm talking with them I want to get them and their friends to come with my friends to a place for us all to eat, while we're are eating I build rapport and 90% of the time, if I could get her to eat with me, then I get either a number or Facebook.

Now, I may not be clear on what I was asking for, I want to mainly know how to K Close in day 2's because if you were able to get me to K Close in a mall, in front of all their and my friends.. you would be officially amazing!

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Okay...let's begin. First things first. I don't get some things. Maybe it's just in my country but here in Hungary a damn phone number doesn't mean anything. When I used to be a beginner, I haven't even considered going for number closes. There's really no point in getting the girl's number before you've made any REAL progress.

Second, you're young. I'm not saying you shouldn't game. I'm just saying that when I was at your age we were fighting with sticks pretending they were swords and lightsabers and shit. And I don't regret a single second of it. This generation just wants to grow up too fucking fast. So don't take this too seriously... Enjoy your childhood while you can.

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I´m seventeen but was pretty solid with women when I was your age to. The only difference IMO is that kissing is easier for you since everyone is so damn immature.

Anyhow I'd say kiss closing has always been my specialty. Last new year when I was 16 I kiss closed 10 girls. That was like a little less than half the party.

My point is: it's easy trust me.

First of all. There is no sort of ladder as it sounds like you think it is. You don't have to introduce yourself, followed by getting her number, followed by a kiss. You can introduce yourself with make out on a dance floor.

What has worked for me is just being confident and standing out. Can't stress the importance of the last detail because t is what gives a big impression. The bigger the impression you've made on a girl the more attracted to you she can get.

A VERY safe way to tell if you can kiss a girl if you have your face less than 30-40 cm from hers and you can both hold eye contact for more than three Mississippies. It's not safe if she's your friend though.

For you however I recommend reading the game by Neil Strauss. I think it's great for an aspiring pua such as yourself.

-Mackan

Well, regarding this day and age, my brother is 12 and is thinking about relationships and I haven't influenced him at all.

Lastly, I don't understand what you mean by REAL progress though and the fact you say that phone numbers mean nothing because if I am at a shopping centre which isn't local or any place for that matter, how am I going to see the girl again?

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Can you give specific ways to stand out please because my group of friends that I go out with could all be considered AMOGs so it would be really hard to lead them.

I have just finished reading The Game infact, its what lead me here
I'm going to start reading 60years of challenges' books soon which you may like to read.
Lastly, is it still safe if their friends are watching when I go to kiss?

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The 3Qualities needed: Confidence, Abundance & The Ability to sexually escalate. These are pretty much what every efficient PUA has.

You don't have to stand out by leading your friends. I usually doesn't lead people. I actually often sneak away from the friends and game solo when I'm at parties. You could try peacocking. That isn't really necessary though. The only difference between me and my friends is that I have a ring on my right hand. Once a friend gave me shit about this but I just shrugged.

I find that tucking in your shirt helps, because no one else our age does it but it shows a lot of maturity.

I want to stress though, that the best way to stand out is to act and behave different from other guys. Just learn basic pua and you'll get better at it.

It is always preferable to kiss close in private. Isolation techniques is in my opinion a very important thing to know. Ive never had bigger problems with kissing a girl in front of her friends though. It depends on the tone of the party or event.

By real progress, I mean that you know she's into you. You can get a girl's phone number and chit-chat all day, but it won't get you any further. OR you can kiss her, and then you definitely know she's into you (very few exceptions...) and then you can get her phone number. So what I'm saying is that you shouldn't use phone numbers as a selective factor. Because currently that's what it is. You will try with the girls who gave you their phone numbers. How about you try with them from the very beginning? Why not kiss the girl at the shopping center? I don't wanna hear you can't do that...have you tried it?

See my point here... With the phone number shit, you're playing it very safe. And this can give you a very bad illusion of good progress, while in reality you're just stuck. You must take risks. And you don't always have to worry about stupid shit like "how am I going to see the girl again?". Because, as for me, most of the time I don't even want to see them again. Have some preferences, and only ask for her number if you think this can get to either something serious, or fuck buddies, or if you want to make friends. Other than that, no point at all.

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OK, thanks a lot, your right, I guess I do always play it safe, I'll try to K close next weekend then

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