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A Sticking Point or SP is an issue you CONSISTENTLY run into.

It is NOT a point where you get stuck with ONE SPECIFIC GIRL.

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I keep getting LMR whenever I bring girls back to my place. This has happened at least 10 times already! What am I doing wrong?
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I got LMR with this one girl! What do I do?
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2012 7:42 am 
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need help with DHVs and creating attraction for college students. also whatever openers which works well for you would be awesome


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basically, think of the best stories you have from your life, the most interesting where you were doing something cool (dhv's outline this fairly well), then some easy negs to use are

-little cuttie
-at least you're (compliment) (after they do something silly or awkward)

but really, a2 is not nearly as important as a3, you want to sit there telling stories all night, and negging, and she is totally dis-interested, chances are she won't even be listening to your stories or even give half a shit, just look for 3 signs that she likes you, and begin a3, qualify and vibe on commonalities just stay in a positive friendly mood, with a slightly higher energy then her, make sure you stress your preference in the qualifiers, and reward or dis-qualify them based on their answers (if you wanna go MM on them), but most important is the physical escalation,

watch these videos, this is mystery method done properly
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1N57tj-Agk[/youtube]
1st round start at 6:00
-drug dealer opener (mystery method cajun routine)
-locks in immidiately
-dhv's with two girls have already come up to me and asked me if I had any drugs all flirty and shit
-immidiately starts physically testing compliance, girl is fully compliant
-addresses cock block, sets up social parameters that make him a social violator if he persists to join the set, he has to use the girl to be introduced, he does not know this and gets blown out
-after 2 ioi's he negs her again, with omg you are totally my new little sister, I'm adopting you, you're adorable, while physically testing compliance at the same time
-shows some more active dis-interest while testing compliance, has compliance
-throws down false time constraint and an soi (you seem really cool), and requests number


2nd round start 2:16
-opens with juggler method, positive assumption (you're not an actress are you?)after he drops a pre-frame (sorry im not really following you), while physically testing compliance right on the open
-stacks soi off the assumption, she shows dis-interest he calibrates and backs off and closes his body language off more
-handles a shit test, just agrees and absurdifies test
-negs her by stating her name incorrectly, when she shows dis-interest, he calibrates with a back turn and a dhv (breaks rapport, and introduces himself to her friend)
-compliance tests again, she is compliant
-drops false time constraint and soi (you seem really cool)
-number close
-further tests physical compliance

3rd round start 6:10
-opens with mystery method push-pull opener (you girls look like a bunch of retards *the push*), drops a pre-frame for the opener (i'm sorry but..)
-starts compliance testing at a low level (listen), re-frames the push to calibrate (there is a reason I said that)
-don't you guys think retards are funny? *the pull*
-compliance tests girl on the left after 1st ioi (she makes eye contact and smiles)
-handles friends by kissing ass so they don't cock block later (i'm sorry but you look like your getting really offended *qualifies her to behave*)
-dhv's with story about the mom laughing with him, while ignoring the target
-drops soi after set is fully hooked (the real reason I came to talk to you is cause you guys looked kinda cute, you guys looked interesting)
-girls throw shit test, re-directing the test and negging while testing compliance at the same time (it costs 7 bucks to touch me by the way *while arm goes around shoulder to test compliance*, but you're a cutie so I'll let you go for free)
-negs her while escalating (I think it is really cute how she got all mad when I first came in, I love that)
-negs her again (you're my new little sister, im going to adopt you, you're a cutie)and continues to escalate, girls friend throws shit test (that's kinda creepy), he just ignores it and stacks forward escalating
-repeats same neg, continues escalating
-drops false time contraint and number closes, continues to escalate


this should give you an idea of how mystery method works when someone who knows how to do it, is doing it (cajun teaches for love systems *formerly mystery method corp.*)


as for openers my favourite openers are just soi's with a pre-frame, just address and state the frame of the situation, and then drop and soi, if she won't talk to you after soi, consider her screened and go talk to another girl same way, once a girl talks to you past soi, just assume a2 is finished, and you don't need to dhv or neg or anything, you just start qualifying (getting to know her)


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