This is my biggest sticking point.

I'm not afraid to touch. I can initiate kino very quick (usually a little nudge as I'm walking past or to emphasize point) and can get to pretty heavy kino fairly quick (i.e. holding hands, hugging, stoking her arms, thighs etc).

I hit a wall when I reach the point where the kiss is the next step forward. I don't know why. Perhaps it is just a fear of rejection. Whatever it is, I can see it is affecting my game.

I'm not sure of the right way to go about fixing this issue. Is it to just go out there and try and kiss close as many girls as possible? Or perhaps implement a kiss close technique?

Thoughts?

You need to build sexual tension. A lot of Kino does not(!) necesserily mean you've done this. If you've built up enough tension (and you're at an appropriate location) you'll know when to go for the kiss.

I don't want to hijack the thread or anything but I have simillar problem.

Thought my is a bit different. I build the tension (dancing close to each other, looking at her and her lips) so the girl kisses me. But the problem is when they kiss me it is very short kiss, and when I try to continue the kiss they lean back. Maybe it is because I never had a proper kiss (making out) and I am a bad kisser?

bro,

in my many experiences in kiss closing the first kiss is normally pretty short. this is because it is the first kiss and she isnt super invested in you yet...and i dont ever use tounge on the first 1 because this could scare her and it could show her thathat you are the one showing a lot of interest...which lowers your value.


Now, to get her to kiss u longer and start using tounge this is what i suggest. when the first kiss happens be the first to "object". By this i mean you being the first one to pull back and then say something like "ok this is going a little fast" or "i just met you tho" (things girls say to guys in this situation" -- this is called stealing her frame --. Now once you do that she will feel likes shes the one who messed up... and she is gonna wanna try to win you back over. to do this she is gonna wanna kiss you longer...harder...and with more passion. Then you can escalate further and go from there.... see what you can get away with.. and again... always be the one to object.

Hope this helps... it has for me
GL

Duke

I can imagine them after you said 'Ok this is going a lil fast', just doing nothing, or walk away instead of just trying to kiss you 'gain? How does this routine work out for you?

I bet you don't get kissed as much as you want with that routine, so maybe you should take more initiative?
+1 Dukehoopz30

Hmm good point.

And yeah thanks for advices Duke! I will try it next time.