ok so i know mystery method states 3 ioi's i know the iois but i also read you need to be in a certain phase to kiss.. so when is the right time?

i know the 'im trying not to kiss you' 'do YOU want to kiss me?'

Don't kiss them until you have them isolated... preferably back at your place or her place. Kissing diffuses sexual tension so probably want to avoid it until you're in a place where you can do more than just kiss.

Just my 2 cents.

-Wolf

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awesome wolfwood thanks =]

but im still kind of shy towards kissing girls even though i got the ioi's =\

Are you familiar with the escalation ladder? It works as a nice build up to kissing for those who are inexperienced.

Vin DeCarlo's Escalation Ladder Link: http://www.vindicarlo.com/DiCarlo%20Esc ... lo.com.pdf

By the time you work your way through the escalation ladder, the idea of kissing the girl should be a lot less intimidating. Also, a little experience goes a long way... once you've done a few successful K-closes, your shyness should ease up a lot.

-Wolf

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I pulled the escalation ladder off yesterday, it works fine.. Then I added a neg, like: "I hope your lipstick will not stick to me".. We proceeded to make out all night long in bars, however my house was far away and I didn't think she would agree to come.. She is sort of a nice girl.. so next time we gonna drink somewhere near my place and I'm gonna invite her to show her "my movies"

Basically , I think kissing adds to the sexual state, it should be done at home or in a hotle room etc, where you can be even more physical. I was in a bar however I couldn't progress to something more nor could I have taken her home. But since this was our 2 or third date (1. 15 min pickup, 2. first going out, 3.second going out and k-close) , I needed to escalate to prep her for next time, the we shall meet in a bar closer to home