Hello Gentleman.


So I'm very new to all this.... but I'm naturally good at opening. I have zero fear of approach and open, but I suck as the conversation falls flat. How does a junior pua transition properly into the whole, "kino/ demonstrating value/ building rapport" thing?
Also, when I do number close, how do I keep her interested? Recently I let yet ANOTHER HB9 slip out of my hands and into another bed bc my phone game was lacking- I'd text her just to see how she was doing and then she finally said, "I'm not looking for anything right now". WTF. I have so many HB8s and HB9s that I've number closed but I don't know what to do bc I get so much LMR from them. Help a brother out, I NEED to get over this so I can successfully start f-Closing!


Thanks!

-JS

You and 50 other guys are texting these girls, they are over it they know what you want.
Try calling them, saying a story and ending the phone call at the peak, don't even ask for a meeting. Do this until you feel you have DHV'd enough, listen to her if she has any stories of her own and then set up a meeting based on what she likes.

Fuck phone game...

good that you have no probs getting your approaches and stricking up a convo...
but after thast getting digits is pretty easy..and its easy for the girls to flake..
in other words easy action on your part=easy action on their part.

Therefore you gotta try something difficult..more skillfull to make an impact
get it..so id try to get atleast a kiss close before asking for digits.
atleast a kiss close and if u get a tongue escalate it as far as possible...obviously...then you wont need her number anyhow.
basically you want to be leaving them remembering you, leave an emotional impact...being chatty and nice wont do it mostly.

Bro,

text game is crucial. you have to DHV by hooking here with stories/gambits that are fun and non-threatening.. one of my favorites goes as follows:

me: "so i was thinking we should rob a bank, I need a partner.."
her "lol what?? or "what? or "ok lets do it!" (bunch of different stuff here, but if shes a good girl with a sense of humor she will want to play along.."
me "seriously I need a partner.. are you driving or shooting? "
her "im driving blah blah or im shooting blah blah... i once had a girl say "ill drive that way i can bail out if we get caught!" she loved it... its an easy opener and great way to text someone without showing any interest toward hanging out...or whatever.... u gotta build some comfert via text/phone first... but once u do... its over.

I built over 20 hours + of comfert with a girl via phone/text that she was begging me to visit her and F close her... she told me bring condoms... ect ect....


GL sir!
Duke

me: "so i was thinking we should rob a bank, I need a partner.."
her "lol what?? or "what? or "ok lets do it!" (bunch of different stuff here, but if shes a good girl with a sense of humor she will want to play along.."
me "seriously I need a partner.. are you driving or shooting? "
her "im driving blah blah or im shooting blah blah... i once had a girl say "ill drive that way i can bail out if we get caught!" she loved it... its an easy opener and great way to text someone without showing any interest toward hanging out...or whatever.... u gotta build some comfert via text/phone first... but once u do... its over.





I love it! Very inspired. Also thanks to all the gentleman who responded as well. I understand that you have to build rapport but how do you properly phase shift from "hey lets rob a bank" to "hey let me make a deposit in your bank vault", LOL.