This has happened at least 4 times

1. HB8 I met in a dance class. We hang out a couple of times, kiss close after 2nd date. She tells me she had a bf, so I thought she basically wanted to sleep with me. Long story short, she invited me back to her place after we hang out one night at 2am. However when I try to kiss, she gives me the cheek and says "I have a bf, i have a bf" Rinse and repeat, no luck, she pushes me out of her house. The end

2. HB7. We met at a meetup. Second time we went out and clubbed. She invited me to sleep over, since i was a little tipsy. We kissed but nothing happened. Next time we go out, we kissed and she even allowed me to go down on her. After that she starts getting all crazy like she's sure I'm seeing someone else, I'm a player, blah blah, I sensed drama, so I let it fade away. The end

3. HB8. We met at a house party. I meet her and her friend at a bar later. 2nd time we meet alone at another bar. Kiss close. 3rd time, we meet again at another bar for late night dinner. We make out again. She stops responding to my texts. The end.

4. HB7. We met through a friend. We hang out first time, kiss closed. (wrote about this one here) 2nd time, serious make out session at the end of the night. She even asked herself "Should I just take you home?" a couple of times. But she is determined not to sleep with the guy on day 2, so she doesn't take me home. 3rd time, we watch a movie. At the end, we kiss, I notice she's hesitant. Texts me after with a "Let's just be friends". The end

So I've kiss closed another HB8 tonight, and I don't want to mess this up. I don't know what I'm doing wrong, maybe I appear too eager to kiss again, or I appear like I just want to get in their pants. I don't know the best way to approach this HB8 so I can F-Close. I'd really appreciate your advice

I use to have the same exact problem. I live in Utah, so a good amount of girls here are mormon and say "I won't do that."


What really helped me is doing what Style does. Once you get 3 IOI's kiss. After that, start progressing, go from kissing her, to being on top and dry humping. Once you dry hump, its easy transitioning to everything else. I promise dry humping, pretty nice key for mormons.

Anyways, a thing you also might be doing wrong.. Which definitly changes up the ball game... KEEP THEM WANTING MORE.


Kiss a girl on the neck, bite it.. Then say "I bet that doesn't even phase you, huh?"

if she says oh it does, keep kissing her.
If she says no, you say "Okay, I guess I should stop then huh?" thats when she will be like, NO keep doing it!

Works everytime!

Another thing you can do, is make them super horny while kissing. Completely stop in the middle of it, and do something... You can feel the emotion coming off them. Then wait 5 minutes, go in for it again. This time she is going to go crazy