So I hate cavemanning, its invasive, an all or nothing approach and theres no guarantee of decent chemistry even if shes HB8+. I normally take a cheeky approach where I meet introduce, charm and talk dirty, not too hard and its a lot of fun pushing verbal boundaries and introducing light kino.

But when the clubs this bloody loud there is no way I can run my game unless its outside in the smoking area, which when you don't smoke much can often indicate a hidden agenda.
The club plays heavy dubstep/drum and bass, so there is absolutely no way you can just rock up to a chick take her hand and do any spins, at least this has failed in the past. You either gotta skank hard in front of her, which to be fair can seem manic at times or you gotta jump in and bump and grind and to be fair I don't wanna be the guy who cavemans every chic in the building else I'm gonna get labelled a perve and to be fair, it really doesn't get me going that much either.

I love the music at this place and the girls are often really hot and I see HB7+s K-closing, pre F-closing and getting off with what may well be described as cave man AFC's, I certainly haven't spotted many Alpha's

The girls hang in groups of 3-4 regularly and therefore, there is no way to split a girl from the group and its impossible to display High Value and get an invite.

Anyone got any ideas, I've spent two years trying to crack this egg...