I am still very brand new to the game. Any advice would help. Thanks!


After last Saturday speeddating event, I started doing text games to see if I could keep my deals alive. Here are stories:

1.) Limpy the english, A HB9. I copied an example text from this forum. Sent it to her this morning

Me: Hey Lixxy, I was thinking about robbing a vintage dress gallery and needed a partner.
(Because she is working in gallery and dealing with all victorian vintage costumes)

I haven’t got any reply and I felt like I am losing the deal. I want to salvage it . Please help!!!!!!

2.) Bee the german, A HB 7.5 – HB 8. Her name sounded like Bee and I gave her this nickname on that night I met her. She laughed at it. Txted her this morning

Me: Hey “Bee” :-p, it was nice to meet you last Saturday night. Did you find your “Honey” at the end? ;-P

This one I haven’t got a reply yet. Again, need help to salvage my deal

3.) Louder the Italian, A HB 7. I thought she gave me a sh!t test; then I took the challenge and went all the way. When I looked back, I came across a bit needy, clingy and unskilful.
Me: Yo , nice to meet you the other night. Have you find your lab geek at the end of the party. RonnyC the math geek.
Louder: Hi! Nice to meet u too and I enjoyed to be challenged by a math geek ;-p
Me: Ha! Come out for a drink and I got more challenges for you. ;-p
Louder: U probably forgot that I’ve been living in BRXXXX
(She did tell me she was not living in London on that night)
Me: Distance is not a problem for me. ;-p
Louder: it’s been really a pleasure talk to you. But actually I didn’t say that I’m going really far for a while… to france! But u see that I didn’t lie about phone no.
Me: I know u are genuinely nice and light-hearted from the first time I saw you. . Let me farewell u before u go to france. A piece of good memory before y go can sweeten up your journey. I like this challenge btw.
Louder: I’d like but I’m leaving on Friday let’s say that we can keep in touch via fb- and u can challenge me more via chat
Me: Laura.
Me: Laura, if you didn’t like me, u wouldn’t give your number to me and had a lovely with me. Don’t let yr chance go . . I saw plenty of (her name) on fb. OMG. Where are you? I assume we are not playing hide and seek on fb. ;-P

Since then, I have no reply. She suddenly disappeared like a fart. ……..

Bottom line is that all of these girls are FLAKING YOU OFF. what you need to do is understand why they are doing it. i have been on speed dating before, it is very hard to create impact in less than 5 mins with each girl. perhaps you realise that you didnt create enough impact with them to keep in the interaction going. obviously i cant see what you did wrong on at the event but i do have some comments about your text game.

1) with all the text messages, it sounds too needy to start with anything like "it was nice to meet you".
2) You're first text to Limpy was very good in my opinion. maybe she didnt reply because you didnt create enough impact with her.
3) With Bee, you made the joke too cheesy. Bee....honey...hahaha. you have to come up with something more original or dont acknowledge it at all because every guy would do the same.
4) with the italian, it's not cool to make it obvious that you are challenging her, takes the enjoyment out of it. You can see she's already flaking you off when she said that she's living somewhere else.
5) you were being too needy when you said "distance is not a problem for me". this shows that you are too eager and chasing her when it's suppose to be the other way round that she is chasing you.
6) You were also too complimentary when you said to the italian was nice and light-hearted from the first moment you saw her, about saying farewell and piece of good memory. TOO MUCH KISS ASSING.
7) she has shown that she is not interested by saying that you guys are gonna keep in touch by fb.

I suggest that you dont contact these girls, learnt what you did wrong and move on to some new girls.


here are some notes on attraction, building rapport, and number closing which might be of interest to you as well as some conversational techniques that i use all the time. enjoy.

one thing you should know is when to tease (push pull technique, negging etc). they should only be used if ur target is a 7.5 or above (or the girls who think they are 7.5 or above whereas in actual fact they are not). if you were to tease a girl below that rating, you would end of hurting and insulting them. in exclaimer for using negging and teasing is that one should positively validate their target before they negatively validate them. the reason to do it in this way is because one must hook their target in order to get their attention. so after the positive validation (for a set who is +7.5) you negatively validate them (tease, push) in order to put yourself at a higher level than them because at the beginning they are higher than you. the main reason why it is good to use negging is to challenge the ego of a girl of high calibre which is something that a typical afc does not do. and by doing this, it shows that u r a man that has high standards and does not go for just any girl and this will make the girl more interested and it will compel her to work harder to gain your approval because you have showed disinterest in her, told her that she does not fit your standards (negative validation). girls always want the guys that is surrounded by women and guys which are difficult to get, its a challenge for women to go after those guys.

building rapport is a very interesting process. in order to build a great emotional connection one must choose to talk about things which have deep emotional content. it does not matter what the girl does or likes, you can connect with her even if you have dissimilar interests. as you know all occupations and hobbies are completely different in their complexity, principles and structure, but there is one thing which all of them have in common/share "EMOTIONS". one must be empathetic and show a girl that u understand why she chose to do that job or hobbie by expressing the emotions that one feels when doing that activity, it shows that you're really trying to get to know her, and she will think "wow this is a great guy to talk to, he's making an effort to understand me, but wait, i dont know anything about him" and this will compel her to ask you questions and u can freely express yourself how ever much u want as long as u express urself passionately and positively. all the men dont do this at all and do not understand how much empathy is a powerful force and openly allow themselves to be perceived to see a girl superficially. you can use the concept of 'rapport' to ur advantage as well.

in order for you to build greater rapport with her, get used to asking more open-ended questions e.g. "what have you been up to?" or "What did u get up to today?", my one: "What monkey business did u get up to today?". dont use questions like "wats up hun?", thats a closed-ended question which the girl would simply answer and she wont give u much material to work on in order to reach the hook point.

and connect on her answers in a positive way. dont be afraid to tease her as well. dont be afraid to create impact. when telling a girl about a situation that happened to u on that day or in the week, give more details about it, women love details. it is also good to read the local news paper, women are usually very aware what happens in the world, u should as well. u can get her point of view on something in the news (nothing to do with which celebrity had sex with who) e.g. political, environmental, sociological etc and then she would ask you what u think and you can manipulate the conversation which can lead anywhere u want.

another way u can have an "endless conversation" is the principle of "Question, statement, Question, statement, Q, S, Q, S etc". so u ask an open question, receive the answer, and then make a statement about the last thing she said in order to ask a deeper question. this process can go round in a circle, it can go on for ages.

after you have the girl attracted to you and built rapport, here's how to make sure that you can get a definite number close and afterwards ensure a date in the future.

the way to ask a girl out is by 'offering' not asking permission, never ask "Do you want to go out tonight?" or "will you go out with me?" or "so what time are you free tomorrow?". They are all questions which AFCs do. they make a guy sound needy, desperate, dependent on doing something with her.

so before offering a date, let her know how busy and sociable you are. girls want guys who are difficult to get. usually in rapport with girls, to make sure she does not flake on u after the first meeting, there's a pua principle called 'seeding'. this is when u in plant an invitation in the conversation with her but u havent actually invited her. for example, you could say that "im thinking of going to this really cool bar sometime next week which i heard about". now usually when a guy mentions to a girl about going to a bar, club or party that u know, the girl will always expects the guy to automatically invite her. but what you would do is just to mention the party or the bar and continue on the conversation. this will catch the girl off guard and the girl will be thinking "hey, this guy is pretty cool (depending on the attraction and rapport), but he has just mentioned this party but why is he not asking me out?". she will think this and will be more compelled and desperate for you to ask her and she realises that she needs to work in order to get the invitation. women want to go to things that are hard to get into, exclusive and even more if they are told they cant go. people always want to go to things when they have been told they cant go. sounds so forbiden and interesting.

dont be in the position to be waiting for a girl to call you, women are lazy or busy but definitely unreliable. you make the contact. but when u contact, dont sound like you are too eager to see her, bad sign to show that ur desperate. in between texting a girl, act like u dont care if she ever replies back. i know it sounds crazy, but it does not feel good waiting, checking ur phone every so often seeing if the girl replies. have the frame of mind that u dont care about a reply, then u will feel less anxious, and more focused on ur game.

Hey Mickey,

Thanks for your reply. I have jotted down some of your good points in my notebook. There is a following up about my txts to bee and limpy. Bee did reply my message last night and we txted to each other for a couple messages. In all my text messages, I kept teasing, negging and she kept laughing. I haven't asked her out yet and I sent her another txt this morning like this:

Hey, I was thinking about robbing a bank and needed a company. R
(This is text message I copied someone else's in other forum. It's totally not my work)

She hasn't replied me yet, once she replied, I will ask her out subtly.

For limpy, I still want to give another go. When was a right time to text her again? if so, what should I say in the text

glad to hear that you used some teasing and neggs on bee. it really does build alot of attraction.

but i don't think it is a good idea to always copy other people's work because it would feel unnatural saying i. you should really say things that are more relevant to her and trigger her to experience the same emotional response when she receives a text from you. another time, if you use someone else's work, it's gonna put alot of pressure on you to transition if they're not your words.

asking a girl out should not be subtle. every guy i know starts off asking a chick out by saying "i was wondering/thinking/hoping....". asking a girl out should be direct and dominant. remember what i said in my previous post about this. the idea is to OFFER a date, not ASK. there's a major difference between the two. so if you to make a date with her at the end of the last text you send her before her answer (there should also be some other stuff in the text before you initiate the date), say something like:

"We should meet up for a drink sometime. How about we meet on "DAY" at "PLACE" at TIME "

hope that i have helped. happy gaming dude

Hey Mickey , thanks for your advice on getting bee. Good Stuff. I guess you don't agree me to text limpy then?

yeh forget about limpy. it's obvious that she is not interested in you. move on to some other chicks.

hey mickey, I lost bee as well, she still hasn't replied my message yet. Anyway, it's a great lesson for me