So this is my story, I'm 20 years old, have never had a girlfriend or had full sexual intercourse.
The vibe I get from girls is that I'm a fairly attractive guy, and often have girls show interest in clubs or university. I am also a friendly, social and athletic person.
The problem is however the only time I'm ever comfortable making a move on a girl is when I'm drunk at a nightclub, and even then the girl is always the person to make the first move. The furthest I've been to is base 3, and that was because it was a very pushy, keen girl.

I just can't bring myself to capitalise on a situation where I feel, or am being told, that a girl is showing a lot of interest.
All the comments I get are "It will come naturally" and "Just do what feels right", when in actual fact it is something that has never, ever come naturally to me even when I'm alone with a girl in my room.

Now I find myself getting older, less attractive, less confident, while guys who are sometimes less attractive are getting girlfriends and getting laid. And all the time I get less comfortable with even getting with a girl in a club to take her home as I have no clue what to do in bed whilst at my age virtually all girls would have had some experience.

It is because of this that I need extremely detailed, precise advice on how to make a move on a girl, go on a date with a girl and even have sex with a girl.

I'm not ambitious about getting lots of responses but this is a desperate cry, however sad and pathetic it may sound. Thanks.

Why don't you try increasing your confidence around girls first... that will come with practice.

First of all, don't give a fuck about what a girl thinks about you, just stop caring. Don't think of yourself as being inexperienced or desperate. You're good enough to be with a lot more girls than you've given yourself a chance to. I don't always feel natural or comfortable when I talk to girls either, but I go beyond my comfort zone and have gotten results, and the more I've done it the easier it got. My usual routine is to be random and funny, act playful, keep good eye contact, smile a lot, talk slow sometimes, do a little touching (and increase the touching as we keep talking) and keep getting her to move closer to me when I can. You gotta kinda take the lead you know.

You're more comfortable talking to girls when you're drunk at the club? That's fine. Why don't you go out as much as you can in the next few weeks, get your drink on (get tipsy and social, not drunk), and just practice approaching girls in the club and saying RANDOM shit. Approach them with the mindset that you don't care about getting rejected, just do it to have fun and don't take anything they say personally.

Go open with some crazy shit, the chances are that they might find you interesting or funny and they will talk to you. If they tell you to get lost, just think of it as practice because the more you keep being ballsy like this, the more confident you will get. Say some things like this:

Group of girls -> So which one among you is the sluttiest in this group? *if they point at eachother* Ok good, I found my target for tonight. Hi, my name is...

A girl -> Hi, I just wanted to talk you... you look like a complete slut, and I know I look like a complete stud, so maybe this destiny... *if she rejects you coldly* be like... But wait what if we are meant to be?

Asian girl -> Hi, you look like you watch hentai.. We can re-act so many hentai scenes that I’ve seen before, it’s ridiculous!

A girl -> Hi, I have a massive boner right now and it's all your fault, so what are we gonna do about it?

2 girls -> Hey I wana show you guys a magic trick... *if they're like.. ok?* *get in the middle and put ur arms around both their shoulders* ... how about we go back to my place, have the wildest threesome we've ever had.. and then, I'll make you guys disappear.


Remember, this is for practice and getting more confident. When you say stuff like these you have to seem confident and playful. So yea, next time you're in the club and feeling good, try something different, go out there and push your comfort zone , don't worry about getting rejected. You will get much better

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Ha I'll have to use some of those lines, cheers never thought of saying something so upfront/funny as an opener!

As for the sober ones, I'm actually quite confident with girls but I chicken out at the point in time where I think they like me and end up over-shooting straight into the friend zone :/
Thing is I don't know whether to just lean in and kiss at a random point e.g. during a film or to tell them I like them first etc. Thanks for your help though!

That's because most guys don't do it. Hell, most guys don't even go up to a girl to talk to her because they're uncomfortable, let alone say something so direct! Be different from most guys.
I used to be the same way, but the key is to kino (do some playful touching) and escalate the touching... meaning watch her reaction/body movements and if it's positive (like she touches back playfully or doesn't mind it at all) take it a little further. When I'm talking to a girl I like to get my knees to touch her legs or have our legs rub each other or touch her arms a little bit... but I will do it during a conversation and not flinch at all or act like I'm doing something so it seems more natural and smooth.

You gotta be seductive like this and create a sexual vibe/tension between you two. I've always been trying to seduce girls by keeping my distance and being the social and friendly guy and that was my biggest mistake. You can't be the nice guy who's there to entertain her, or just be a hangout buddy, you have to be seductive! You gotta kinda project what you want and take the lead. If there's any sexual vibe between you two, and you don't do anything, she'll see you as being too weak and timid to escalate the interaction. When you escalate, both of you may feel SLIGHTLY uncomfortable, but it's ok, it's supposed to be. It creates the sexual tension that you need and that will keep you away form just being a friend.


As far as leaning in for a kiss at a random point... don't!
If you just jump in for a kiss, chances are you will catch her off guard and she will probably move away. You gotta escalate and get her close to you, and create a sexual vibe first... so when you go for the kiss, it does not seem like a big jump. When I go for a kiss, I'm usually at the point with a girl where our mouths are really close, or our cheeks are touching when I lean towards her to say something... so when I do make my move and kiss her, it seems more natural and gives her less chance to think and give me a harsh rejection. By escalating, remember escalating is done very gradually so each step doesn't seem like a big jump from your last position, she will feel teased and she'll look at you in a more sexual way, and she will be much more likely to accept the kiss.

If you're watching a movie with a girl... try to escalate by getting close to her, like sit right next to her so you're almost touching, make your legs touch her legs, then try to put your arm around her or get her to lean against you, and when you're close enough (like your cheeks are touching or your head is right next to hers) as soon as she faces you or you're staring at each other go for the kiss. You can even say something like... 'Hey, close your eyes for a sec' (if she says why... be like, i just wana show you something) when she does just go for it and kiss her.... if she pulls out and gives you a rejection you can be like.... 'sorry this movie was kinda turning me on' or something, but be confident about it and act like you don't care. To girls rejection is nothing because they do it all the time, and it shouldn't be anything to you either.

Also, I never tell a girl I like her first, and I don't like to shower them with compliments either. I only compliment if it's genuine, and not about her physical features but compliment her on her actions or characteristic. Also make fun of them in a playful way but don't insult them or be a jerk. If I like a girl, I avoid telling her I like her until I find out more about how she feels about me. So I would try to have a lot of conversations about sex and relationships, and about what kind of guy she likes, or her ideal romantic environment, and if she would want to get into a relationship anytime soon, etc for two reasons.... first it associates me with the topic that we're talking about in her mind (so she might see me more as a sexual partner than a regular friend), and I can find out how to pursue her without putting all my cards out on the table. You don't wanna seem too easy, and you also wanna know for yourself if you are the kind of guy she would go for


These videos are great examples of how to be seductive and escalate, this is part 1, I suggest you watch all of them:

http://www.youtube.com/user/PUATraining ... DsVwYqVhdU

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Get into PUA. "The Game" "Mystery Method" David Deangelo's "Double your dating"

Thanks a lot for the personal and detailed replies!
You've boosted my confidence already. University from tomorrow so I'll be sure to implement all these tips x