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A Sticking Point or SP is an issue you CONSISTENTLY run into.

It is NOT a point where you get stuck with ONE SPECIFIC GIRL.

A Sticking Point is:
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I keep getting LMR whenever I bring girls back to my place. This has happened at least 10 times already! What am I doing wrong?
A Sticking Point is NOT:
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I got LMR with this one girl! What do I do?
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If you have not already gone out and practiced enough to have a real Sticking Point from meeting an ABUNDANCE of women, YOU DO NOT DESERVE TO POST HERE.



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 28, 2014 11:31 pm 
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Hey guys i'm Wizhefner and my problem is I think I come off as a player when women aren't with me. What am I doing wrong?. I'll give you a more in depth picture of whats going on. Naturally I'm an introverted shy guy who never really knew how to talk with women, lately for the past couple months now I've been looking into a lot of game and reading books, articles, and posts taking advice from guys such as Bobby Rio, Steve Myles, and Style to just name a few. Also to add I am a very attractive person physically meaning my looks. I take great pride in fine grooming wearing the latest in fashion, material things, and a nice touch of cologne. Needless to say I have improved my game a far bit from where it use to be but still far from where it needs to be. The focal points of my game are bantering, the take away, im still not very good at starting conversation so I throw in a couple silences that she feels the need to fill in and does so or I throw in some questions along with active listening and react off that to add in some spontaneous moments. I give off a type of vibe about me that says im confident, I know what I'm doing, I'm kinda cocky, and I'm used to being around women, along with a little i really dont need you but I want you. So having told you guys all of this' when I'm around a woman alone in person I feel like with the techniques that i use i establish a lot of attraction and get her wanting me but I dont exactly move sexual i kinda just get her wanting me because I feel it's not really proper time to get physical and I feel that she feels the same way so I dont go past teasing and making out. And finally I end the interaction on a high note to get her thinking about me when I'm not around.. After all of this i barely hear from the girl anymore, we only talk if I talk first and when she replies she is very irresponsive and distant which is super confusing to me because the day before we had a good time together I know my game isn't perfect but I feel like I did enough to atleast get her liking me because of thats the vibe I was getting from her when together.


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2014 9:13 pm 
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So having told you guys all of this' when I'm around a woman alone in person I feel like with the techniques that i use i establish a lot of attraction and get her wanting me but I dont exactly move sexual i kinda just get her wanting me because I feel it's not really proper time to get physical and I feel that she feels the same way so I dont go past teasing and making out. And finally I end the interaction on a high note to get her thinking about me when I'm not around.. After all of this i barely hear from the girl anymore, we only talk if I talk first and when she replies she is very irresponsive and distant which is super confusing to me because the day before we had a good time together I know my game isn't perfect but I feel like I did enough to atleast get her liking me because of thats the vibe I was getting from her when together.
The part about "I feel it's not really proper" get that out of your head, unless the women is physically trying to stop you. For the love of God I hope you're not actually saying that. Even if the girl says something that makes you think she doesn't want to do XXX physical act, still go for it. Women will say things to me to stop me from kissing them the first date, but guess what? I still do it.

Opportunites come and go with women extreeeeeeeeeeeemely quickly. You will have a brief window, and either a) are experienced enough and can read the situation properly, or b) you fuck it up.

It's really hard not to consistenlty fuck up because it takes tremendous exp/knowledge not to. This is because every woman is a little different, and you have to find that delicate balance to satisfy what they are looking for *UNIQUELY*. Every girl you intereact with will add to the exp you can reference, but the next woman will still be unique.

I have kiss closed 3 out of 3 (that I wanted to) of my dates (on the first date) in the last few months, yet, I didn't really get any further with them. That's because I misplayed the situation:

I was waaaaaay too sexual and wanted to bed these woman too quickly (as in night of). I overtly made this clear to these women... once I started to get flack, I should have went back to rapport (trying to establish connection) and then tried again later to bed them, however since I kept pressing that one direction, I got no where. As women get older, red flags go off when a guy is confident and sexual with them up front (sets off 'playboy' sterotype). They want to know once they do you, you are going to stick around, and that you are interested in more than just their body.

If you are in the window of time where you can advance on a woman, you have to go for it. You aren't establishing enough of a connection if after you see a woman, they really don't care to respond. Unfortunately, like we talked about, being physical/making out doesn't establish a strong connection. 99% of the time, I don't get far trying to bed a woman immediately. Why? Because there is a lacking personal connection. I've found most women want to form a long lasting connection with you. It almost doesn't matter what you do, the only constant is it involves spending time with you in whatever form they deem appropriate.

Most normal humans bond when they have sex with each other. However, even sex doesn't guarantee anything. Think of one night stands. If you get horny enough, you'll do anyone, but does that mean you want to see them again?

Unfortunately, there is no for sure way to guarantee future interaction... It's a combination of 1. the girl likes you a lot (a factor you don't have much control over - even if you dress like Mystery) mixed with 2. female experience so you know how to read and react to the situations that present themselves.


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