This thing has been bugging me for so long, I finally managed to stay up and type this out.

So I have been reading and studying a lot of PUA and Body language for over 4-5 months now, and never sarged before.

However, I can say that I did take care of my health and wardrobe a lot more, and somewhat improved my inner game. I have noticed when I talked to girls with eye contact, they sometimes fix/ touch their hair a lot.

But the problem is, I have been reading a lot of inner game stuff here and believe me, they DO make sense, but I just don't feel like doing it!?

For example:

-Stand up Straight
-Head tilt slightly upwards
-Walk with your chest out
-Flirtatious
-Social Proof

But here's what I end up doing: I can manage to walk with heads up and back straighten, but I would feel very unnatural and just slouch back, as well as slouching my chest inward because I am actually a small framed person. Also, being flirtatious, I just don't feel right when I do it with girls at my school, as people always perceive me as this nice guy from years ago, therefore when I try to flirt, it always reminds me that people will see me as a try hard as I am never a flirty guy. Social Proof is the worst for me, I only have 4 good guy friends at school and few girls that are HB4s.... and I never got invited to any parties or smoking weed, because I don't like going to places like those, or perhaps because I have never been to any of those places.

Just typing this makes me feel like a complete AFC.

I did get a number close on a university student HB4~5 around 2 months, which I don't even talk to anymore.. I can say that I got some game in online dating (SPAM, MSN, Text), as I managed somehow to make a girl cling onto me for a very long time, even up till now, but things are beginning to dry up as she's very shy and won't meet up anytime soon.

To conclude this, I would like any opinions on HOW I could improve from an AFC to a PUA reigning champion, overcome all anxieties and man the fuck up.

Thanks for reading,

and sharin'.

The r00kie.

Keep practicing. The more you do something, the better you become at it. Stop reading so much. Learn something new, apply it, master it, learn something else, apply it, master it, repeat.

So here is another perspective: these posture tips help you to improve your game and looks, AND they also benefit your health! Especially if you're tall like me, it will make a difference. Standing (and sitting!) up straight distributes the pressure on your spine quite evenly. If you've experienced back pain before, it might even go away after that.

If you tilt your head upwards and walk with your chest out, people notice you more. In my case, this means that people make way for me if I walk through the railway station (which is a very busy one, one of the most frequented ones in the world). You seem more authoritative and it actually makes your frame look bigger. Besides that, more people actually look at you in a situation that is not so crowded, giving you the opportunity to look at them and smile, and possibly open them.

I know what you mean by all of this feeling a bit unnatural. Whenever you notice that you're slouching or whenever you could use the advantages I described above, fix your posture. You will fall back into slouching at first, but the more you do it, the less you fall back and the more natural it will become, and eventually it will be your natural posture.

Hope I could help, good luck with this and the rest of your game!

To help improve posture and keep you from slouching, have something tall and flat in your backpack like a binder. Then place a water bottle or something that is small and solid in between the backpack and the binder. It'll correct your posture or at least put pressure on muscles that will allow you to figure out which muscles to flex to correct your posture.

Mess with the straps/position of the object and you'll eventually find what works. I did this by accident by having a water bottle slide between my binder and my backpack.

thanks for the advices guys, will update you over the weekends after finishing class today.


+plus, i stuck an umbrella in my backpack that forces my back to be straight.

Good! A solid object in your upper back will also help push your chest out.

Your posture is the best investment you've made in your life! When your bad posture was a problem, it probably felt like life sucked ass, didn't it? The world once was a bad place with dark and stormy clouds... but now the sun has passed through.

Now that you've fixed your posture, you're at least 20% ahead of the AFC's below your level who slouch all the time. Great going!

I'm serious now--You can easily compare yourself as a Greek god vs. other wet-noodled AFC's JUST because of your posture correction.

It's that big of a deal.

Now, would you like some advice on how to improve? On how to "feel like doing it"?

Pick up a book called Pscyho-Cybernetics by Maxwell Maltz, Ph.D, the famous plastic surgeon who stumbled into the field of Psychology and "Cybernetics."

For a taste of what he's talking about, check this out:

"DISCOVERY of the "self-image" represents a breakthrough in psychology and the field of creative personality.The significance of the self-image has been recognized for more than a decade. Yet there has been little written about it. Curiously enough, this is not because "self-image psychology" has not worked, but because it has worked so amazingly well...

"As one of my colleagues expressed it, "I am reluctant to publish my findings, especially for the lay public, because if I presented some of my case histories and described the rather amazing and spectacular improvements in personality, I would be accused of exaggerating, or trying to start a cult, or both."

You can buy his book on Half.com (or Amazon, if you like wasting money), or you can find a link to his book on Scribd.com through this link: http://www.scribd.com/doc/24987697/Maxw ... ybernetics

Thanks for being a Bro, man. You're among some of the greatest allies of your life.

Your Bro,

Aaron

P.S. Can I ask you how old you--as well as what your first experience of Pickup was? Talk soon.

P.P.S. I think you'll experience more success if you change your self-image from "therookie" to "THEFUCKINOVERLORD" Hah Even if it feels like it's "not you" at first.

Surreptitious, thanks for your long reply. I luuurve long replies.

I am in junior year in my high school, so roughly a 16~18 years old.

About 4 months into PUA stuff (out of the 6 months), I actually began to read a lot more about body language, as sometimes I am more interested into how to read people & conversational hypnosis rather than picking up chicks... haha.

I really appreciate your effort into giving me a recommandation to the book, but unfortunately I simply do not have the time / money to get it and read it.

As for my first pick up experience, which I don't even know if it can be classified as pick up, and this was 2 months ago.

So after a volunteer service, there was a volunteer walking down the hill infront of me, there was no body around so I decided to do it, because first she was a HB4~5, and I am sick of doing nothing. I walked up to her and used a sort of indirect opener, I couldn't remember clearly, but it was something along the lines of "Hey, I am doing a questionnaire about this place, can you help out?"

and basically, i got little shits and giggles with her and said thanks. But then I began "picking her up", I just asked about her, and she told me she is university year 2 student (20~21 years old) and which I told I am a high school student, so I guessed that killed the love barrier.

I teased her a bit when we walked to the train station, and got quite a conversation going, but it was mainly about her experience in this business marketing competition. I managed to get some kino, when I saw some white shit in her hair, and told her: "hey, you got something in your hair, close your eyes" and then said "there, all beautiful now"

and she sorta blushed I guess?

After this, I was getting fucking stoked as this was really my first hint of success, so we just walked a bit more and I told her I got to get some lunch and she couldn't as she have to go back to her dorm for some homework, I don't think she lied because she really seemed to want to eat with me. Before I left, I said "You should help me out in future business competitions" She said "Haha okay, depends" I said "Haha, what's your number?" She chuckled (not sarcastically) a bit and gave her my number.

Here is the text convo later on:

me: (her name), the business pro, it's (my name).
her: oh hi !
her: What can I do for you?
me: woah already offering to do me stuff? Perhaps you should help make do the whole project for me
(i didn't check my shit ass grammar)
her: I believe i will only ruin your competition, burn
me: says the RUNNER up of your marketing competition
her: I mean we should have been the runner up but finally we just got 4th place.
me: so?
her: I believe you can do much better.
her: I'm confident as well but you gotta assist me!

-the end-

My text game was UTTER SHIT back then, so now we don't talk no more.

talk soon bro.

theFUCKINOVERLORD

Hey, that's outstanding! I started pickup five years ago at fourteen and a half. It's awesome that you're into this so quickly! Your "roots" will have far less of a shock to the system as you develop than, say, a 30-year-old who's practiced shitty habits for so long.

SPAM, I'm in the process of creating a more in-depth reply, but for starters, would you like to know the top two mistakes you can avoid right now?

If yes, the mistakes (and how to avoid them) are:

1. "Mis-define beautiful" -- You need to be able to distinguish a 1st-place horse from the 2nd place horse from the 4th place horse. This will come through practice, but if you'd like an easy way to avoid this mistake, choose to rate women on what I call the "Kate Upton scale." Make Kate Upton (or an equally attractive girl) a "10" so that you can rate other girls accordingly. I'll explain more on why you want to do this in my follow-up message.

2. "Associate with losers" -- The hardest choice I've made was to give up my friends. The best choice I've made was to hang out with the cool people. Get out of the weeds and stop being a weed... and be a fucking redwood tree. Stop being a deer and become the lion (male lions, as you may know, have a harem of female lions who do all the hunting, lol, which is nice).

Focus on these two awesome ideas now, and I'll get back to you with even better ideas soon.

Let me know if this helps, THEFUCKINOVERLORD! Please let me know how I can make your experience on this forum better for you.

Your Bro,

Aaron

P.S. I refuse to call you "therookie," lol. "The Mentee" (the mentor's pupil) or "The Practioner of Excellence" perhaps. But not "The Rookie," lol.

Talk soon.

P.P.S. And btw, I assumed you were 31 before you told me your age, hah.

Wow, that was very interesting, I love something new.

Replying to your points:

#1: Ok, from now on I will carefully rate woman on this scale, and treat them different accordingly.

Face 0-2 pts
Tits 0-2 pts
Ass 0-2 pts
Legs 0-2 pts
Personality 0-2 pts

#2: You fucking hit the spot here.. I hang with 2-3 guy "friends" that are known to get shit grades and loners in the school. Yet, I am often seen as the leader of the group, since they are all loners, well I guess I am one too. Believe me, I tried to make new friends before, but I am really struggling! I can't bear to hang with people that always smoke, drink, drugs and SWAG/ YOLO this and that, I find it extremely irritating to bear with... So I am stuck in this dilema right now and don't know what to do!

Thanks Aaron, my mentor (ROFL).

Look forward to hear more from ya.