No need for derogatory comments here. This is serious, and I am desperate. Strange as it may sound I would not be a terrible PUA if I pursued it. I am an athlete, in a band, attractive, and very confident in all social situations. That is unfortunately where it very suddenly ends for me.

I need some serious help. I just started seeing a woman that I care too much about for words and I am on the verge of loosing her. I need you all to really help me.

I am 26, a virgin, and she is 30. She is/was a friend of a friend who was very attracted to me so she asked me out. That was last week.

On Monday she invited me to her place to "snuggle" after her long day at work. My problem is foreplay. It wasn't working for her, because I don't have a clue and I spilled the beans about my lack of experience and pleaded with her to be patient with me. She is doing just that in the short term, but it is clear to me that I need to show up a new man this evening (Wednesday). We're going out tonight and I need to be able to be a new man.

Before I was passive because I just didn't have a clue. She told me that she likes men to take charge and be physical. She is REALLY SENSITIVE so it all works on her, except oral sex, because that's too much stimulation for her to enjoy.

Here is what I need: Very specific routines. I don't need to be perfect, I just need to know what to do frankly. Again, she is very attracted to me, and aroused VERY EASILY. What would really help are videos that I could simply mimic. I downloaded the movie Unfaithful, because that was recommended, but I need more foreplay to get her to understand this is a new man. If good videos to mimic aren't out there, I need VERY SPECIFIC routines please. PLEASE and THANK YOU!

Like all women they want men to take control, The best advice is get into this womans head, Speak dirty, Tell her what you want to do to her and tell her what you want done to you. Take her home whisper in her ear a womans mind is a powerful thing.

Then start touching all her body not just her sexual parts but neck ears etc... Push her on the bed after all this then start to undress her down to her knickers grab her hand and make her touch you. She will explode hope this helps.

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It's not too difficult to be dominant in bed. Just treat her like she's there to be your sex toy. Don't ask her questions about what she'd prefer, because she does not want to be the one making decisions.. just physically move/reposition her where you want her to be and have a good time.

I hope for your sake that this girl is patient.. many older women are not and they will not put up with your lack of experience in this area. It is the man's job to be good in bed and you have a lot of learning to do. If this doesn't work out, then you need to go date a girl who's younger than you and practice this stuff.

Let's keep things simple: First, if you have a good time, then chances are that she will as well. As a general rule: If it feels good to you, then it probably feels good to her. Don't get too hung up on whether or not she orgasms.. just try different things and touch her all over... girls are more sensitive to touch than guys are so let your hands constantly wonder around her body during foreplay.

Second, after the initial make out period, get her clothes off (if you want, you can grind against her for a little while before the clothes come off.. it tends to turn girls on).

Third, you should still go down on her at least for a little while even though she's sensitive.. just avoid her clit (lick above it and around it). While you're doing this insert a finger and stroke her G-spot (upward come-hither motion - one or two fingers). If the licking isn't working out.. then keep going with your fingers.

G-spot: If she were on her hands and knees, and you inserted your thumb and pushed down, then you would hit your G-spot. Incidentally, that's a fun way to make a girl orgasm.. just push down on that spot and move your thumb in a circular motion (or just keep lifting up and pushing down on the spot.. depends on the girl). I usually hold her waste with my other arm while I'm doing this.. so you'd actually be facing away from her. Feel free to try that out.

Assuming you are hard and she is turned on, you should have her get on top of you and grind against your cock. Grab her hips and move her back and forth along your cock (if it feels good to you, then it'll feel good to her). This is a good way to get really sensitive girls to have clitoral orgasms.

Anytime you feel like it, you can reposition yourself or her so that your cock is near her mouth. It's a dominant and non-verbal way to say, "Hey, it'd be really cool if you sucked on my cock right now". Don't assume you have to finish, you can stop her anytime you want and move onto something different. This is a good thing to do for short periods if you start losing your stiffness.

Okay, that's all I got. Hopefully that will give you some tidbits to work with.

-Wolf

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That was amazingly spot on! This should be read to every person on this site. I feel like this is where a lot of guys get strung up. It comes so natural when you're in the moment. It's just getting to this point a lot of guys get frustrated with.

Yes this is very good. I want to sincerely thank the poster.

I am going to have a harder time making her mentally comfortable than physically aroused. If we end up at her place she will keep her clothes on until she is certain. Help with loose, non revealing clothes would be very helpful. Also, I can't stress this enough, if you guys can be VERY specific about EXACTLY what I can do, that is the level where I am at.

Okay, time to talk about escalation (i.e. kino). Here's the link to Vin DeCarlo's escalation ladder. It starts with incidental touching and progresses up to heavy petting.. touching builds comfort and attraction.

Link: http://www.vindicarlo.com/DiCarlo%20Esc ... lo.com.pdf

Click the link, there are step-by-step instructions and examples that show how to effectively escalate.

-Wolf

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Wolf's stuff is spot on, but you should also read http://www.theattractionforums.com/sex/ ... gasms.html
its worked for me and its fun. tweak it to the way you see fit

oh and try not to put to much pressure on yourself because not to scare you but if you worry about not satisfying her then you are guaranteed to not satisfy her. and if you get down to sex tonight or any night try to stay calm, dont get nervous cuz that can lead to getting soft. like it did for me my first time.

Wolf and others, I sincerely have to thank each of you. I will again stress that I've been to bed with her twice and had I known what I was doing would have made it all happen.

I can safely jump way ahead with the kino, although this time she will be much more hesitant, so it will likely take a bit of time for her to be mentally comfortable even if her body is telling her she should be ready.

OK, so Wednesday I wasn't given the chance that I was hoping for. I'm stuck in this almost friend zone now. We're kinda still dating, but there is no going back to her place at the end of the night. We make out and she gets turned on and wet, but then she stops before it can go any further. Additionally we're never in a location where things can really happen.

Back story: On date one, she brought me back to her place with a movie and I waited a really long time to make a move. Once I finally did, in less than a minute, she led me into her bedroom and had off all but her panties. It all caught me really off guard! I bumbled around and wasn't prepared for any of it. Obviously I could have gone all the way if I had a condom, but more importantly a clue.

Anyway, despite the awkwardness, she put that in the back of her mind until this past Monday as I mentioned at the start of the thread. When Monday went poorly, she could no longer convince herself to be comfortable with me. She asked me out Wednesday to be nice, not to give me another shot.

So again, here I am in this strange friend zone like place. She still is really attracted to me and my body, but not comfortable sexually with me. She knows I am more than a bit attached to her which is not good. I understand what would probably be best is to leave, fuck a bunch of other chicks and then suddenly reenter the picture. Emotionally I am not in a state where I can do that.

There is still a chance, just not a good one. I don't know if I should ask for advice or not. I've started Starchy’s Encyclopaedia of Foreplay (Physical, Sexual Tension & Sex) (From Piratebay) Much is irrelevant because my situation is kinda unique - (I had her and then lost all the sexual comfort, but the emotional is all still there) So I'm wondering, if I have any shot, might things like David D's anticipation/sexual tension building work? Yes or no, what should I look into specifically (the guide has a lot!) just in case?

Look into LMR and taking one step back and two steps forward when she's resisting during sexual escalation. Most of the time her saying "no" is just her telling you she isn't turned on enough. She may be soaking wet, but she isn't giving fully into her urges yet. I've had girls play the "no" game for hours before they finally gave in to their urges.

It's not a unique situation at all.

Don't force yourself upon her, just stop the process, and restart it again after a few minutes.

Is it still LMR if we are not at a seduction location? I'm certain if she was confident in my abilities or if I had more experience and was reading and responding to her better than I am, it would be different. She makes no secret that she loves sex. The LMR isn't about who I am, it is about her physical comfort with me.

I'm a little bit confused here, you don't consider her place a seduction location? When you're talking about physical comfort, do you mean she recoils when you touch her?

The incidental vagina touching stuff from Vin DiCarlo's escalation ladder is golden. I actually figured that one out with the girl I lost my virginity to, before I even read DiCarlo. Occasionally when we were fooling around, she would stop me when my hands wandered to her vagina.

Eventually I found out that I could just agree with her, and start touching her in other areas. I would "accidentally" rub her pussy with my thigh between her legs, or my forearm as DiCarlo suggests. If she was still wearing pants, I would rub her ass outside the pants, grab the belt loop or material at her lower back, and pull it up so she got a slight wedgie. Any natural shifting of her body with a wedgie would stimulate her vagina. The wetter she got, the less logical she got until one time I was fingering her while her sister and friend were in the same room on the computer. It was obvious to her sister what we were doing, but she was too horny to care.

It culminated in the back of my car around the block from her house. Just assume her not being "comfortable" is actually her not being turned on enough yet. She could be soaking her panties, and saying she isn't "comfortable" but keep stopping and restarting and eventually she will be. If it helps you, my girl actually told me she was uncomfortable when we were in the backseat. I asked her logically why she was uncomfortable, and she told me it wasn't because of how she felt with me, but because I was still wearing my pants and she was almost naked.

Also, have you tried pulling your cock out, or putting her hand on your cock so she knows your hard? Girls get really turned on when they know they have this effect on you.

dear poster,

Wolf and the others have given GREAT information here. The link wolf had attached was GOLD.

Now,from my experience w girls (kiss closing and F closing) being DOMINATE in the bedroom will ALWAYS work. There is a reason for this psychologically for women. It goes back 40,000 yrs ago to our primal instincts. She doesnt want a soft guy with no confidence... she wants a man who can provide SURVIVAL value for her.... just as you as a man seek REPLICATION value from here. being weak and passive 40,000 yrs ago wouldnt get you liad... AND IT WONT NOW EITHER! Mystery talks about this and it BLEW MY MIND how i didnt understand this stuff.... but almost every guy i know DOESNT EITHER!

Please watch the videos for they will change your thinking on girls. They have altered mine for the better and i know this will help you!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arIU6Q8go34



GL!
Duke

Read a womans romance novel, or online erotica, lmao

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