| I’m 21 and I’ve been in the Pick Up Arts for 8months now. And like all of us who get into it initially its a steep learning curve. I’ve broke through a couple sticking points but now this one’s the toughest yet. I hardly ever post on the forums because I’ve got some really good mentors that always give me constructive advice. Plus I’m so fortunate to have 4 other guys who are my close mates that are in the community with me. The material I’ve learnt so much from includes: Neil Strauss’s Annihilation Method DVD’s and I’ve read his book ‘The Game’, VH1 The Pick Up Artist both seasons, Advanced Datech by David DeAngelo, Neil Strauss’s teleconferences, Kino Escalation seminar by Lovedrop and Mystery, Adam Lyons Under 21 convention seminar, a few of Alex Coulsen videos aswell and I’ve read stacks on text game and phone game lol. I’m sure most guys have gone through this stuff aswell. I’ve had the revelations that most guys have gone through aswell, becoming more of an Alpha male not just with women but even at work and when hanging out with friends, I now have both structured game and natural game and I know the importance of both, I also understand that it all counts, anything that makes you a better man will automatically make you more attractive and I also understand the powerful concept of Indifference! These are just to name a few.
Been doing night game for a while and I’ve done a few day game sessions as well. In the past 8 months I’ve number closed 50 plus girls, kiss closed a few hotties and F-Closed zero. Been on 15 or so dates with some of these girls. Basically what I’m trying to say here is that I’m not some newbie to the game but I also understand that I’ve still got a long way to go. I am dating someone SPAM but she’s so set on waiting til marriage to give up her Virginity. And I totally respect that, but I’m a sexual guy and I’m probably going to end it soon.
Okay so now you’ve got some idea of where I’m at on the spectrum, this is what I’m working on SPAM. 1) Increasing the number of day 2’s after the number close on a cold approach. 2) Learning to kino, and kino’ing with authority because this will ultimately lead to more kiss closes and an F-Close
This is my spin on it SPAM, I understand that it’s not about the number close itself. Its about the comfort and rapport you build during your set from meet to pick up. Higher levels of comfort and rapport will lead to higher return texts calls and day 2’s. Which is what I’m working on SPAM. But I also understand the importance of being indifferent, not attaching yourself to the outcome. Which I don’t really care if they return my texts or calls because I know if they don’t, ultimately it’s their loss. As for sticking point number 2, this is my way to kino. Gentle hand clasps on the shoulder, using the PUA spin, arm around her and negging with “is she always like this?”. Discussing sleeping positions and how most girls sleep on their side (routine I invented lol) and then leading that into the tension test. Also using the PUA Spin into a hug from behind. I’m starting to use this stuff more and more, but hasn’t become an inbuilt part of my game YET.
I eventually want to get to a cold approach F-Close, and F-Closing as frequent as my number closing, my question to the experienced PUA’s is how else could I bring F-Closing into my reality more sooner and more frequently. Perhaps I could use a reframe.
Any other guys been in this situation and overcome it? Love to hear your input, thanks in advance
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