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A Sticking Point or SP is an issue you CONSISTENTLY run into.

It is NOT a point where you get stuck with ONE SPECIFIC GIRL.

A Sticking Point is:
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I keep getting LMR whenever I bring girls back to my place. This has happened at least 10 times already! What am I doing wrong?
A Sticking Point is NOT:
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I got LMR with this one girl! What do I do?
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If you have not already gone out and practiced enough to have a real Sticking Point from meeting an ABUNDANCE of women, YOU DO NOT DESERVE TO POST HERE.



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PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2011 10:44 pm 
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if you're wondering what to do if you've already come across as needy, look no further. a single line will flip the tables on most women, so that they will try very very hard to please you, instead of you trying very very hard to please them. i call it the "down-to-business reframe"

if you're wondering on the name, let me give you a little metaphor. when a business man or investor decides to invest in a new product, he shows interest. he goes to whoever is selling the product and asks for a price. if hes a bad business man, he'll talk himself down to paying a whole lot of money for a really cheap product. (the product being the woman) now, you might be thinking whatever woman you're going for is worth a lot, and she might be. but she's not an expert business person. women almost always underestimate their own worth, which is something you'd be idiotic not to take advantage of. (if you're like me, you'll make sure her self esteem is higher after you've officially 'won' her though)

so using this principle, all you have to do is act like you're a business man and attraction is your business. you give her the down-to-business ultimatum you see on tv, where a man in a suit says to another man in a suit:
"10,000 or no deal"
and the other one says
"you're really forcing me into a corner on this one... well ok, but you better be the business venture of a lifetime like your down-to-business attitude implies"

so here it is without the metaphor:

wait until you notice yourself acting needy, and she either ignores you, is uncomfortable, or whatever the hell she does when she's turned off. or for guys who arent so needy or awkward, use it after you've flirted with her. in fact, i think this is most effective when least expected. when she's most comfortable with being unattracted to you, throw this in her face. (dont act angry, that will also be a turnoff. girls hate guys who get pissed when women aren't attracted to them. just be nonchalant about it, bring it up like random conversation.)

say something along the lines of:
"hey, well, if you're not interested, just let me know so i can stop trying so hard."

feel free to throw in:
"honestly i like you, but theres no use trying if you're not the same. i'll just use my energy some way else."

or joke around about it. it'll make you instantly appear dominant, up front, and it'll make her try to please you whether she's attracted at the moment or not.

dont be surprised if she's still not interested. the point of this isnt to immediately make her attracted, the point of this is to blow her perception of you wide open.

if she says shes not interested, say ok, smile and then say "well thats cool, i guess we'll just be friends then". then treat her like you would anyone else, act like you were never attracted to her to begin with. every time she sees you, she'll think of that moment. and she'll begin to wonder if you've forgotten all about it because you have gone back to your normal, casual self. she might bring it up again. if she does, just let her talk, because she's probably going to admit feelings or interest for you. i think the longest i've had to be patient for was a month.

and if you're playing the waiting game, flirt with other girls. theres plenty of fish in the sea. and she'll see it and wish she had taken that chance. spend more time with her as *just friends*. that will also make her wish otherwise.

if she ever comes around and tries to be with you again, dont act needy. if you act needy it might reverse her new way of seeing you. and the longer you've left her in friend zone, the easier it should be to bring up romantic / sexual interest in plain old casual conversation. it might be hard for her, but it will be easy for you. trust me, and trust the moment.

not only does this technique reverse your neediness in another girls eyes, it will also change you if you use it a lot. you'll start being less needy naturally, the more you use the patented down-to-business reframe. you'll be a business man of women, a player worth womens attention. after all, the attitude is everything ;)

hope you enjoyed my little technique, note that it has about an 70% - 80% chance of succeeding if done right, but i guarantee thats better than the 5% chance if you just keep working harder and harder for her.

p.s. i'm looking for more forced reframe techniques that apply to this type of thing, so if theres any mpuas reading this, feel free to throw in your ideas :) i'm always down to expand my wisdom on the female race


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 10:13 pm 
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I really like your thinking behind this one.
It's a good concept and I need to try it, looks like you've field tested it already!

You know it's funny... i'm a believer in natural game etc..

Recently I kclosed a HB9.5 and I was texting her for the 2 days after... problem is she was "kind of" seeing my friend who actually has a gf and she doesn't know this - shit situation. Really great girl though so I was a bit AFC'ish about it and not full on as I would like to be.

Anyway....

I left it off with her as to asking her how she felt about me and wether she had enjoyed the kiss etc.. She had already admitted she'd had a good time.

She came back with some shit about me being a great guy and that we get on really well but she feels bad about it happening and it confused etc etc some crappy excuse and I thought right shut this down then... Every fibre in me wanted to go on but I responded with..

"In that case I will forget about it then :)"....

Which after reading your post I guess is similar.

I just brushed it off and she started saying she felt bad... I carried on as if nothing happened and asked what she felt bad about etc and then I have freeze framed for just now (as to act like I did before our kiss) and then I will open her again with a very "as if nothing happened" frame on her and let her carry on being confused and intrigued...

Thanks for sharing!

-Sierra

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 06, 2011 4:19 pm 
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What if you r a woman and acted needy and pushed him away?? How can i fix this and undo the damage. I'm posting on here to get a male opinion

Basically started seeing ex boyf again, he suddenly stopped calling/wanting to see me, so i just asked him to be honest with me if he thinks its a bad idea that were seeing eachother, said he felt suffocated... so i told him i felt used, and then i sent him a long message saying im sorry he felt suffocated but i just felt i deserved the truth.

And anyway, havent heard from him since! I know i should just back off and not contact him, but is there anything i can do to undo the damage?

I'm afraid i have lost him forever... heeelp guys!!


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 4:51 pm 
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How would this work with "you are probably not my type anyway" thrown in on the end? or is it too much , I find as a newby to pu its easy to say too much when saying less is more.


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