Hey so I am currently studying abroad and have been here for almost three months. I met another girl from my country (U.S.), named Kayla. We hit it off the first few days and hung out, but nothing ended up happening. I think it is because when we were together, I started flirting with other girls in front of her to make her jealous. But I don't think that worked out very well. Eventually, our relationship (me and kayla) became very hot and cold. During the week, we would flirt but on the weekend, we would barely speak. We would see each other in clubs but never really talked. Actually I had chances to talk to her when we were out, but I didn't know what to say to her because I would just think too much. I can flirt with her when we're sober but not when we're out. I don't know why but I just freeze; I don't know what to say to her. Nevertheless, I am good friends with all of her friends and in good standing with them.

I have never had a girlfriends before and am still a virgin at 21. Thus, whenever I am talking to a cute girl, I get into this phase in which I think about every little encounter we have, just because I have a crush on her. I don't think I would do that if I had more experience.

My lack of experience with women is not really congruent to the way that I act. I look and act "normal." People that know me would be surprised if I told them I was a virgin or never had a girlfriend. I am able to communicate well with everyone I'm around and have many guy friends as well as friends who are girls.

Back to the story, because I think about every little encounter and whatnot, I thought it was interfering with my overall state of mind. I am only studying abroad for a semester and my main goal for the time being was to go out, get out of my comfort zone and have fun. And get better with women. Because I thought too much about her, I was straying away from my main goal. And that was not worth it. So then I completely stopped speaking to her for a few weeks, which was difficult because she lives in my building. It didn't seem like I was avoiding her, but rather we just never crossed paths.

But as of late, we started talking and flirting again. Last night, we ended up watching a movie. During the movie, an Australian girl took her top off. She then asked me if those were the first Australian boobs I had seen. I said no. (which is true because I saw a pair at a wet t shirt contest a few weeks back, but I didn't tell her that). I asked her if she had hooked up with any guys. She said yes, that she had just made out with one Australian guy. Right after the movie, she left and that was that.

I feel dissapointed that we have not hooked up yet or even made out. I feel like I should have enough skill to do that. We only have six to eight weeks left before we have to go back. Do you guys think I should still pursue this girl. Unfortunately, I have started thinking about her all the time again. Any suggestions on how to handle the situation??

Also, I always seem to get stuck here, whenever I'm gaming a girl. I can start out well, but I just hit a road block whenever I get to the mid game.

Please let me know. I appreciate it. Also general feedback on myself would be good.

Thanks!!! Let me know!!!!!

Heey there!

It seems you are developing a One itis on her.

My advise would be to either give it one more big shot, and with that i mean to really aim for the kiss close and nothing less -die tryin-.

Or/ if other plan failed

Forget about her and the best way to do that is to flirt with more girls.

You are saying it starts out well for you, great!

But how does your midgame looks like? What do YOU think that goes wrong?

Goodluck!

Yeah, I think you're right. I may be developing a one-itis for this girl. And that is going to be my mindset - really aim for the kiss close; I think it's a possibility, given the right environment.

And for my mid-game, my problem is that I just run out of this to talk about. I need to be able to build rapport better, which I am also inconsistent in. Another thing is that if I meet a girl during the day and then see her out at a club at night, I have a certain mental block in my head which just puts me in a mental freeze; and I can't think of anything interesting to say.

Additionally, at the beginning of any new formed relationship, it usually starts pretty well and I bust the girls balls about a lot of things and she loves it. Eventually, i just get into that mindset of busing her balls, but I feel like I don't know what to do after that - how to transition from that to rapport. Overall, I have a lot of flaws in my midgame.

Let me know if you have any more suggestions. Thanks!

Remeber that you are the leader, u make the right environment. You invite her into your life/party!

In the midgame section of the forums, u can find more then one topics about having good conversations, u should take a look there!

A few tips though,

Statements own qeustions.

Make more use of statements then qeustions, like this:

I love this great weather!
Can't wait until im going on vacation! last year was so awesome because bla bla bla

These statements make a person respond with an answer on wich u can continue.

It will take a time to learn, but u need to try to find these topics when talking.

Like, Talking about great weather and then u start talking that this great weather makes u feel being on vacation or whatever And so u bring the conversation into a new topic!

On the part with the mental block. I don't got a answer on that, but i know what u mean. A real example of me a few months ago.


Girl i knew when i didn't do PUA yet, liked me and i liked her, i did alot of escalation on her to get her, but she had a boyfriend and i wanted them to break up. It worked after a loooong time, but after her break up, she decided that she liked the freedom and told me she didn't want me.

4 Months after that, i started PUA 3 months ago then, she came at my place, she wanted to see me badly, but i had such a mental block on touching her, it was scray, i just could NOT do it. So strange so i know that feeling.

bUT u date girls after u got to know them? Because when i number close a girl, i text and chat a bit with her and then within a WEEK i try to set up a date with her.

Then K-close on date, and well then it depends on what i do.

Hope i helped a bit with this.

If u got qeustions u can send me a message

Goodluck!

Thanks Amadieus. I looked up some more stuff on the midgame section of the forum. But I need your opinion on our situation and my reaction.

This is the update on our situation.

Last friday, I went out with her and her friends. Everything was going well, i was escalating and flirting with her (kayla). The last place we went to, however, 3 or 4 guys came up to her and started hitting on her - she knew them because they play frisbee together. I grabbed one of her friends (Carol) and we walked around the venue and played pool. I just hung out with her cause i didn't want to compete with the other guys - i didn't want to chase her because i felt like i didn't have enough experience in those type of situations to actually come out on top.

Nevertheless, she came to us (me and carol) later and asked where we went. She stayed for like a minute and left. When we all left, those boys who hit on her kept walking with Kayla and our group. I then went to bed once i got back to my room because i was pissed off (because at the time, it looked like she went off to one of those guys rooms). I found out the next day that the group stayed up all hanging out and that's all i know. She could have definitely hooked up with one of those guys. Also, on Saturday and Sunday, she hung out with the frisbee boys. It is Monday night now and we haven't spoke much since Friday night. I went to go watch a movie with the group of 6 girls (including Carol and Kayla) who i went out with Friday night, yesterday. But I didn't say anything, and didn't give Kayla any attention at all. I'm not sure if that's the right move I should have made, but that's what I ended up doing. I was still talking to other girls and laughing at the movie and whatnot, but i just didn't speak to Kayla (or look at her for that matter).

Anyways, tomorrow is Kayla's birthday and Carol asked me if I was going out with them to celebrate her birthday. I said, i'll have to check my work load (school) and perhaps I might join. I don't know if I should or not. Again, I haven't talked to Kayla since Friday night. I've been giving her the cold shoulder. I've done that because I had come to the conclusion that she isn't interested in me because she would have hung out with me Friday night or any other time in the weekend. But she didn't. And because she didn't, I decided that I was done pursuing her. Instead, I was going to pursue the other aspects of my life.

I still want to hear your guys' opinions on what I did right, what I did wrong, if I should go out tomorrow (which I free and able to do, kinda want to as well), how I should act around Kayla. Because I really don't know how I should act around Kayla. I just hate the thought of me being stuck in the friend zone, which I didn't think i was in because we flirted a lot and hung out a lot last week. I guess it is very possible that she was leading me on, and having fun while she was out with other guys.

Let me know what you guys think. Thanks!!!!!!!!!