Even though I am a more advanced pickup artist, I always have this annoying problem with my friends.

I have about 20+ close guy friends that always host house parties with me for a social group in college. A good bulk of them are true douche bags that lack a sense of wingman respect. These guys always interrupt me in mid conversation or join in, obviously trying to game the girls that I am trying to hook up with.

I was really pissed on a few occasions. For example, I was gaming a girl and a friend actually took this girl away by the hand while I was in mid conversation with her.

PLEASE give me some strategies to AMOG or diffuse these guys who have no respect for me, even though they are my "friends." If they join in conversation when I am just 1 on 1 with a girl, I want to know how I can make them know that they should back off, without seeming irrational to the girl I am gaming. If they try to take my girl away I want to make them piss off for having no respect.


Please help me with this. I am tired of them being disrespectful.

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If you are not a PUA, you are a noob.

as soon as they come up be like "ooh bro!! mike was looking for u dude he's over there!"

oooor! when ur friend comes up, try to interupt HIM from interupting YOU, have a conversation with him a very short one, sooner or later the girl will look away or fix her hair or something, in order to give u and ur friend privacy, this is when u signal ur friend...idk what signal u may want to use i mean they r UR friends u should know how to cope with them.

Good strategies. The only problem is that my friends will try to steal my girls at times. Kind of stupid, but to benefit I need to deal with them being annoying.

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If you are not a PUA, you are a noob.

Find other friends, or fight with them.

Ever thought about talking to them about it?

You call them close friends but they dont seem like friends at all. What friend would try to steal his friends girl? If my friend would do that I would not call him a friend anymore!

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I'm not trying to be a dick Ezo, but you're being a Pick Up Snob in my opinion.

bbardot: you just reminded me about porn

Exactly.

Chances are, those guys ain't going to be your friend in 5 years time.
Instead of finding ways to "amog" or "diffuse" you should go out and expand social circles to the point where you don't need 'em anymore.

Out of curiosity. Are you a nice guy? to your friends? like do you take their shit?

In all honesty, none of my friends would try to pull shit like that on me, simply cause they know I don't take shit. A guy took the hand of a girl I was talking to and led her away? (If any of my friends have game that tight - no offence to them but they don't). I would seriously walk over to him, say I gotta talk to him outside, and punch the shit out of him in the face. I would never do it in front of everyone to embarrass him or make it look like I'm aggressive. But I would do it cause that shits disrespectful.

It's just a personality thing in my opinion. You could have the personality where people are like "how far can I push that guy to get my way?" or you could have the personality where people go "He's cool, but I don't want to fuck with him".

Only time something similar happened to me was when a guy from my lair (who I didn't know at the time) came up to us (me and a girl I had been seeing a few weeks) in a club and he tried some stupid line like "hey, how about we (him and the girl) go outside for some fresh air" (something along those lines).
I said very kindly, 'how about I shove my foot so far up your ass you can use my shoelaces as dental floss". (the girl found it funny).
She said something like "oh your so mean!"
I said 'obviously not mean enough if guys think they can push me around, no lets go get me a drink woman".
Took her hand and led her away, the guy kinda stood there. He saw he went to far and I doubt he wanted to push it further.

I'm not telling you to get in a confrontation. I'm telling you, get new friend or tell those guys (even though they probably won't listen to you), that you don't appreciate them taking girls from you.

Also: I'll answer your question.

How do I deal with AMOGs? (truth is, I've never been AMOGed once I gained confidence..so I don't know how accurate this is, but this is what I would do:)

I make out with the girl A.S.A.P. VERY physical.

I always lead her (we don't stand in one place for more than 5 minutes). I always take her hand and move her around. Chances are no guy will try Amog you if you're walking around the place with her. If your standing still: easy (or easier) prey.

Interrupt the guy: "get yourself another drink, we're having a private conversation here"

Stand between the guy and the girl.

Move the girl away from the guy, move her body so her back is towards him.

The second you're good, take her outside away from people (including cockblocking guys) - make it a private place.

But I think number one rule is: make it known people shouldn't fuck with you. This shouldn't be done by fighting with the biggest guy there or anything. It should be in your attitude. The way you talk, walk. I never think "fuck yeah..people can't fuck with me!". I never even thought about it till now. It's something that comes with an attitude change.

If a "friend" does that, you can be blown out at the moment. try to react as soon as possible, so before he's gone with her. Say to him "oh hey dude! you want to pick her up?" than turn to the girl and say in a sarcastic, ironic way: "he's realy such a good player", then turn back to the guy and say sarcasticly again "com'on! show me how you're gonna pick her up! what's ur best trick? you're sooo cool!". He will be blown and suprised, he will not know what to say. Before he can open his month again, ignore him and reinitiate your conversation with the girl again, and/or take her hand and walk away with her.

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You WANT to make a change.
You CAN make a change.
You WILL make a change.

Ambitious to be succesfull => Shyler

Point to his junk and ask if he got that weird rash sorted... saw that on a movie ages ago... might work in this situation

I personally have 4 brothers and I LOVE to AMOG. So check it out.

make fun of him when he walks up. "hey christy this is tons of fun." or "what's up fucker?" or "Sorry brad we should see other people"

Give him a pet name. "so what kitty-kitty bang bang meant was..." or "Hey what's up sponge bob square head?"

then no matter what you do you should move the girl to another part of the venue.

These should be done jokingly.

back turn him and stand between him and the girl every time he says something at all just say look over your shoulder and say "cool dude" in a dismissive voice and start talking to the girl again. The effectiveness of this one is it makes him look like a total chode.

This one might really piss your friend off. just to warn you.

OH and you should AMOG their sets too. fair is fair.

Depends what kinda game you dun really...

For me and my method, RockStar_Dallas has the best answer.

However, if you're already alone with the target then you should have built her attraction I'm you. Anyone trying to AMOG you should get served their own ass on a platter still though...

As some of you know, my game (pretty direct) is ran with above average naturals who have no knowledge of pu. A KILLER line, if delivered right, is "can't you see I'm trying to get into her knickers". Works like a charm!

Also if you feel uncomfortable with that, try saying "you know what, you should meet my pals - they're not all as bad as (x)..."

Take her to your pals and just be normal with them around her. That builds some serious comfort.

Give me a shout if you need any amog advice - it's almost my speciality (along with shot girls ;-p)

Seriously...

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I'm not trying to be a dick Ezo, but you're being a Pick Up Snob in my opinion.

bbardot: you just reminded me about porn

you know what? you're right...

TO EVERYONE

next time your mates give you some banter, whether you are with a girl or not, just knock them out.

it must be the key, this tool above says so.

This thread is actually extremely helpful.

I feel like it becomes a point for me to become both feared and loved. If Niccolo Machiavelli was a Pua he would probably say the exact same things you guys are saying LOL. I will agree with you guys though.

If they try to move in on my set I'm going to deal with that shit. I'll just tell them to piss off and never to do it again.

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If you are not a PUA, you are a noob.

I believe in such a situation there are only two options. Well not counting "just leave it as it is" as an option.

1. Find new friends

This will not work if you can't stand for yourself. Eventually your new friends will start doing the same

Or the better option:
Tell them about that. With a serious face, without any hesitation and mentioned that acting disrespectful they will earn your punch.
If they will act as they understand but will do that once, beat the shit out of them.
I don't mean kicking in the head while the guy will pass out but throwing a punch in a face works very well. This just means that you're NOT GOING TO ACCEPT that.