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| newbguy | PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 1:32 pm | |
| Offline | | MPUA Forum Enthusiast | Joined: Mon Nov 16, 2009 2:48 am Posts: 61 | | I just finished reading "Mystery Method". I understand the concept and use of DHV'ing, but I'm not sure on the delivery in a way that seems genuine.
I have a bunch of things going for myself that I know women would love, but i don't know how to bring them up in casual conversation. Some of the things are:
I got my master's degree in one year instead of two
I'm now the head of internet sales and marketing for an internationally known high performance car shop
I go to the gym every day and can bench press over 315lbs
I'm well groomed and pretty good looking
What kind of routines could I do that would bring these things up to show DHV that won't seem like I'm trying too hard or bragging?
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| RockyD | PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 1:37 pm | |
| Offline | | Member of MPUA Forum | Joined: Sun Jan 17, 2010 8:16 pm Posts: 146 | | What do you think DHV is? its very simple
DISPLAY
HIGH
VALUE
doesn't it speak for itself?
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| PUA Kenny | PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 3:46 pm | |
| Offline | | PUA Forum Leader |  | Joined: Fri Apr 11, 2008 3:21 am Posts: 2124 Website: http://kennyspuathoughts.wordpress.com/ Yahoo Messenger: jomo_loc@yahoo.com Location: NYC | | While talking with the target,say something like:
"Hey,when I was getting my master's degree,...such a such happened".
Make a humorous-DHV story about getting your masters.
Don't relay it as though you'r bragging:"Hey,I got my masters in 1 year while dummies take 2(lol)". That's bragging and DLV'ing.
You:"What's the most adventurous thing you've ever done"?.
HB:blah,bla,blah
You:"When I was getting my masters, I did a lot of crazy shit for that 1 year[you're conveying that you only took 1 year without bragging].On the school's campus was a pool,so I convinced 3 friends of mines to go sneak in for a night swim eventhough it's prohibited[that conveys you're risky & adventurous-2 DHVs.
Make similar DHV stories about the gym. Don't tell her you go to gym and bench press 1,000lbs.
Tell her a story of how a guy at the gym who was spotting you tried to drop ...lbs. of weights on you after hearing that his gf has a crush on you. _________________ Most active PUA blog in the community since 2009.
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| newbguy | PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 11:39 pm | |
| Offline | | MPUA Forum Enthusiast | Joined: Mon Nov 16, 2009 2:48 am Posts: 61 | | ^^ Stuff like that is EXACTLY what I'm looking for! Thank you.
If anybody else can chip in with stuff like that, it would be a HUGE help.
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| Bloodmuffin | PostPosted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 6:02 am | |
| Offline | | Member of MPUA Forum | Joined: Sun Nov 22, 2009 1:08 am Posts: 128 | | You can have a wing man help you say stuff about you and you say stuff about him so it wouldn't come off as bragging.
I like to do cold reading and follow it up with a dhv story related to the cold read. For example, if I make a cold read to say that I'm adventurous I would follow it up with one of my hiking/cliff diving adventures.
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| Smartbomb | PostPosted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 4:47 am | |
| Offline | | MPUA Forum Addict | Joined: Fri Feb 12, 2010 3:52 pm Posts: 219 | | It's subtle to turn a DHV that doesn't come off as a try-hard, esp. when meeting someone new. I was chatting with a girl today at a mall kiosk. She had text books on her work station so I asked her where she was studying. She told me she was in a masters program at X college. She was kind of dull, not super attractive and I wasn't really interested in gaming her, just getting experience and comfort talking to girls. There wasn't a neg opportunity there but I DHV'd congruently and shared with her that I am also in a masters program for engineering. That was a natural segue into a DHV for me that didn't require any bait.
A DHV shouldn't be a skill YOU find impressive. You should read the situation and find a DHV that SHE will find impressive. I also sarged in an organic grocery market today and during some conversation about homemade food I told this girl a story about a time when I was making my own yogurt. I don't think it is a very interesting skill to have but this girl loved it and it was immediate DHV for me.
The situation to DHV will present itself. If you force it on her it will look like a try-hard and chances are pretty good she wouldn't find it impressive. If you steer a conversation towards your pre-selected DHVs then it will be pretty obvious to her you were leading in that way. Frankly, girls don't give a shit about how often you go to the gym or how much you can bench. DHV is means demonstrating higher value, not rambling on about it.
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| The_Enforcer | PostPosted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 10:54 am | |
| Offline | | Member of MPUA Forum | Joined: Sat Feb 13, 2010 11:18 am Posts: 164 | | DHV stories should come from your own real life experience and be designed to trigger the key attractions switches. Look for stories from your own life which will trigger the following attraction switches:
- Leader of men.
- Protector of women.
- Preselection by beautiful/high value women.
- Social proof.
- Ambition and achievement.
- Insight and humour.
- Being well traveled and interesting.
- Social Intellegence.
If you don't have stories lie until you have used your game to develop some DHV's of your own (this can include using pre-scripted or canned DHV's or adapting those of your own).
If you find yourself continually needing to lie, go out and do some things that you can use for or turn into DHV stories. Some examples (from my own life) of things that I have been able to adapt into good DHV's:
- Going scuba diving with sharks.
- Graduating from university.
- Talking my friends into crashing a wedding with me after seing the movie Wedding Crashers.
- Taking my friends girlfriends (x2) to dinner to distract them while thier boyfriends bought valentines days presents, and saving them from the sleezy drunks on the walk home.
Anything like that can be adapted into your own DHV. I find that one of the easiest ways to make potent DHV stories without lying is by merging two other true stories so that you can increase the number of DHV spikes in your story.
If you are wondering where to start - go and watch the movie "Yes Man" with Jim Carey. Watch the movie, absorb it's message, go out and start living you life (rathert than avoiding doing just that) and find yourself some DHVs.
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EDIT: Just read the OP again and I have some additional advice for you. You said that you are worried about appearing like you are bragging or arrogant. One method that Mystery suggests is that you DHV to people in your HB's set while she is in earshot. The result of this will be that they like you (even they think you are a little arrogant) but she will just hear the stories and place value on you. Another effective way of throwing in HUGE SHV spike without appearing boastful is to have your wing provide an accomplishment intro for you while you are not in set.
Finally, remember one source of value is social proof. This is very significant and you should get used to the idea of useing warm-up sets for this purpose. Every minute you spend in set (particularly in set with beautiful women) trigger the attraction switches of pre-selection, leader of men, social intellegence and perhaps some others (particularly if your group is engaged, laughing and if your locked in). Women will see this and you will have built a good amount of value before every walking into set.
Good luck and happy sarging. _________________ Regards,
The Enforcer.
The game is easy to start, the referee blows the whistle. It's where you go from there that matters.
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