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PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 4:11 pm 
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For thoose of you who know about
Barnum SPAM, Using "and" & "but", analyzing bodylangaugae, eyemovement etc and using theese signals to do succesfull Cold Reading routines this is just basic stuff. Im not gonna go into details on the Cold Reading technique in it self, more talk about what setup to use in order to improve results in terms of mystery, comfort and rapport.


There are in my opinion two types of Cold Reading going in the PUA - world.

A )
Ordinary convo-reads to build comfort and creating rapport.
"..I just sense you're a trustworthy person.."
"..I bet you didnt like at first, but as you tried harder you started to enjoy it.."

B) Prepared routines for isolation, like "the cube", "Rainforest", "Fountain"...
Theese routines are pretty easy to learn and with some naturalskill it could do you
very well.

But depending on the situation at hand, theese techniques can be used with variated success.

I like A because it comes out naturally and helps wathever game Im running,
but - its doesnt come out as quality that bumps up my Value (its just a part of the convo)
and it doesnt ad mystery to me as person. Its just ordninary socialskills, and who wants to be ordinary?

I like B because its good in isolation and really creates a bond and it stands out and girls will remember,
but it can be a bit weird depending on were its done and doesnt work well if there is interuptions.

So I've been thinking about a new setup of
-Cold reading that doesnt require isolation
-Doesnt come off as weird or as a cheap mind trick
-Isnt anything like "the cube" or other more or less known routines


By fieldtesting and reading Ive found the following is very important or at least makes it a lot easier
-There will be better results if the one your doing it one belives in what you are doing
(witch they will if you get the first sentence right)
Im not talking about you acting as a psychic. Instead: "Im good at telling what people really are about".
-While doing a read: People are more likely to respond to positive things being said about themselves
(but not any asslicking compliments)
Point out qualities, but dont say its good or bad, just say "Thats how it is".

Example: If you give a girl compliments for being a warm person, its easy to loose the qualificationprocess you want going.
By not adding any value to her persona she'll get more and more anxios to find out if she is good enough for you as the read goes on.

- Learn how to articulate your assumptions. With the right language you're never wrong.
Read about up Forers personality description:


You have a great need for other people to like and admire you. You have a tendency to be critical of yourself. You have a great deal of unused capacity which you have not turned to your advantage. While you have some personality weaknesses, you are generally able to compensate for them. Your sexual adjustment has presented some problems for you. Disciplined and self-controlled outside, you tend to be worrisome and insecure inside. At times you have serious doubts as to whether you have made the right decision or done the right thing. You prefer a certain amount of change and variety and become dissatisfied when hemmed in by restrictions and limitations. You pride yourself as an independent thinker and do not accept others” statements without satisfactory proof. You have found it unwise to be too frank in revealing yourself to others. At times you are extroverted, affable, sociable, while at other times you are introverted, wary, reserved. Some of your aspirations tend to be pretty unrealistic. Security is one of your major goals in life.

A simple routine:
After you establised some attraction and are going into midgame, make a transition into the routine
by simply "By the way, are you good at telling what people are like without talking to them?"
"You look very judgemental, no just kidding. Lets try something. Give me your hand"
Do a cold read based upon the health, wealth & relationship.
Health:
"First, imagine yourself being in the gym"
Check if she is in good shape, read her reaction.
1. You often feel pressure, that you should excersice more, but there isnt always time for that in your life.
You think about what you eat, and when you dont, you tend feel bad about it. You're not a shallow person,
but you know the world is- therefore you care + you wanne feel good about yourself. You're a rather confident girl, but there are things related to your healt and body
that sometimes makes you feel really bad.
Wealth:
"Think about how much money you'd like to have to feel you didnt anymore"
XXX....

Relationships:
"Imagine a perfect day with a perfect guy"
XXX...

Im no expert.. but this stuff is working really well for me.
So please if you have any inputs feel free to coment!

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 4:52 pm 
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This is cool.
Am going over my old cold reading stuff at the mo.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 9:28 am 
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Hey! Great stuff... I really love cold reading, its a fun thing to do, even if you are not doing it to amaze a HB...

I am just a beginner so could use as much information as possible. You mentioned routines like like "the cube", "Rainforest" or "Fountain". I know the cube, but have never heard of the other two. Could you please describe them (in as much detail as possible)? That would be rly appreciated.

Also I am not sure how I would perform a read from "Imagine a perfect day with a perfect guy". For example if she says: "My perfect guy is good looking, successful and caring. We would first off go to play tennis, then have an early dinner in a nice restaurant and go to the theater after that." What would your read be?

Sorry for all those questions, any info you guys can provide will be very appreciated. Thx!


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 4:01 pm 
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Hey! Great stuff... I really love cold reading, its a fun thing to do, even if you are not doing it to amaze a HB...

I am just a beginner so could use as much information as possible. You mentioned routines like like "the cube", "Rainforest" or "Fountain". I know the cube, but have never heard of the other two. Could you please describe them (in as much detail as possible)? That would be rly appreciated.

Also I am not sure how I would perform a read from "Imagine a perfect day with a perfect guy". For example if she says: "My perfect guy is good looking, successful and caring. We would first off go to play tennis, then have an early dinner in a nice restaurant and go to the theater after that." What would your read be?

Sorry for all those questions, any info you guys can provide will be very appreciated. Thx!
If you look around on this forum "Fountain" and "Rainforest" is described
in good detail. Fountain: how many fishes do you see in the water (number of kids) bla bla.

Another one, quite funny is Strawberry field.
You see a field of strawberries.
There is a fenc around it. How high is it? (How high is her sexualboundarie, sluts=low)
Are there many strawberries in in the field? (Number of sexualpartners..)
If you'd eat a couple of strawberries.. how would your feeling towards the
farmer be? (How does she fell after a one-night-stand)

This one is a lot of fun done C&F. You can basicly call a girl "slut" and totally get away with it.


A perfect day with a perfect guy.
What Im suggesting her to think about is of course the man of her dreams.
Take her hand an tell her something like:
In men your looking for someone you feel safe around, but sometimes you are afraid of depending to much on just one person. There has been dissapointing moments in your past and in your weaker moments you tend to doubt your ability to see people for who they are. You are drawn to men with hidden talents. Your perfect day isnt about rainbows and sunshine, you're the type of person who will find joy and peace in thoose small moments of quality, even though you have many characteristics of classic romance in your views of the perfect relationship.

Anymore questions you think I might be able to answer. Fire away!

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Cold-reads are good, but I use them to amp up attraction and value rapidly, instead of the (no offense) long, boring cold-reads posted above that sound like they came from an actual palm-reader.

Just take anything they say and take it to mean something else.

Her: "Why do you use your phone so much?"

Me: "Wow...reeeeally? You're a feisty one, aren't you?" (that's A cold-read)




Her: "So that's why I think apples are a better fruit than oranges (sidebar: lmao as I type this...I've never actually heard a girl say this)"

Me: "You know what they say about people who prefer apples right? It just means that you are a major trouble-maker deep down and love to wreak havoc, but all of those orange-people are holding you back...I knew when I first saw you, you were totally the trouble-making type." etc.

Or, mid-conversation, just be like "Wow, you're such a little troublemaker aren't you?"

I think anytime you can make a women feel like a little girl AND a sexual being at the same time, you're doing things right.


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Cold-reads are good, but I use them to amp up attraction and value rapidly, instead of the (no offense) long, boring cold-reads posted above that sound like they came from an actual palm-reader.

Just take anything they say and take it to mean something else.

Her: "Why do you use your phone so much?"

Me: "Wow...reeeeally? You're a feisty one, aren't you?" (that's A cold-read)




Her: "So that's why I think apples are a better fruit than oranges (sidebar: lmao as I type this...I've never actually heard a girl say this)"

Me: "You know what they say about people who prefer apples right? It just means that you are a major trouble-maker deep down and love to wreak havoc, but all of those orange-people are holding you back...I knew when I first saw you, you were totally the trouble-making type." etc.

Or, mid-conversation, just be like "Wow, you're such a little troublemaker aren't you?"

I think anytime you can make a women feel like a little girl AND a sexual being at the same time, you're doing things right.
I hear you brother. Convo-reads.
I do them to..small C&F assumptions made up on the spot
with the intent of getting a reaction (read: attraction).

I just think the "real" Cold Reading is a fascinating craft.
And even though it might not be a part of your game,
and you may even think it sounds like a boring palm read,
this is working for me so good right now as a part of what I do.

Therefore I find it interesting to be able to make "real" SPAM
about a person, rather then just throwing C&F SPAM (trust me, I know your way of handling this works to).

My goal right now is to develop theese skills so I can use it
as my PUA Image. And I dont mean: "Hello, Im a pshycic (read: pshyco)".

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