I'm sure you guys have come across the "I'm not boyfriend material. You need a guy that will buy you flowers. That guy over there looks PERFECT for you!"

Now, my target has a serious friendzone beta AFC, I was thinking of giving this neg some more personalization (while with them) "You seem like the type of girl that needs a guy who will buy you flowers... like (obstacle's name here)! In fact, you guys seem PERFECT for each other!"

Note: the obstacle likes her, and he's serious friendzone. Being against them as a couple will only make him defensive, and if I can put thoughts into this betas head, like he should keep pursuing her although he's afc, I believe it could ruin his game even more. My only concern is the last statement. Saying two people make a great couple usually makes them believe that, but saying they're PERFECT for each other will turn them off because they know they aren't PERFECT.

What do you guys think?

Your post is confusing >.<

From what i understand there's a guy that likes the same girl as you, and you want to bring him down by making him seem more than he is?

If they are not dating... He isn't a problem. Just game her.

Oh, now i saw "couple"

Yea, i guess that would work... Raise his standards REALLY high so she can think of all the negatives, I read that in a different post i think.

Or, just game her lol. If he seems uninteresting chances are she'll wanna be around a funner person.

~Goodluck ( Sorry if i'm not much help, still new-ish )

What are you worrying about, if the dude is a serious AFC? Are you afraid of him so much that you need to ruin his game even more? I don't see the point of this, man. I think this routine does more harm than benefit, especially if it's personal.

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I agree with this. Your line is fine (haha) but it's not like that one line will suddenly cause an epiphany that would make her suddenly only see you through all of the other man.

You need the typical confidence and stacks that we promote so heavily in our book. As I learned many time in my early days, there is no magic line that makes a girl drop her pants for ya. You've got to work for it.

Good luck.

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