What I've noticed alot of times is that I'm alot more succesful in getting a girl when I treat them like shit, I also tried a couple of times in being the ''laid back'' guy but that never really works out because in that way they don't have anything to work for and earn. Anyone els agree?

it might work well. But treating a girl like shit just makes you an asshole (not saying your one).

Dont get me wrong you shouldnt take her shit, you should challenge her.

Remember the 3 types of guys

Nice Guy (pussy, and gets none, is always a friend)

Good Guy(gets girls, leaves them better off)

Bad Guy(gets girls, treat em mean keep em keen)

The good guy is the best one to be by far. Learn to be him and girls will love you

Your post is built on the false dichotomy of either being laid back or treating girls like shit. The guy above broke it to you: there's a lot more to human behavior!

Just know that if you make a habit out of treating girls like shit, and believe that they want or deserve to be treated that way, the more you do this, the more you develop a misogynistic vibe. This kind of vibe pulls in damaged girls and repels the good ones.

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Learn to multi-task

Too much of anything is bad for anything.

Reward a female when she is good.
Punish when bad.

Cant always be the a-hole.

Exactly what im thinking!

So general consensus is we all disagree. LOL

Actually I am personally noticing the same thing. That being an asshole to girls gets me more success. The reason that it works for me is because my normal personality is an asshole. So by being the good guy sure you might be better off, but you need to be true to yourself otherwise they will be happy with you at the start then feel your personality completely changed. You should not change yourself to become a typical pua. If your an asshole let it shine that is what makes you different and unique. Not a paper cutter pua.

that is classic push pull.

girls good=push to make her happy, push to make moves, push to have a good time with her.

girls bad=pull away from spending time with her, show her that you have better things to do when she's acting like a rotten brat.

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Thatsnot push pull, thats a takeaway.

Anyways Treating them like "shit" is a relative term. Dont treat a girl like she is anything special. Tease her, make fun of her, ignoring her is not treating her like shit, its just being a man whose not afraid to lose her. And that is one of the things women find sexy, risk. With no risks, there is no fun. No fun there is no reason for her to want to be with you, thus no reason for her to be comfortable with you.

If she doesnt want you nor is comfortable with you, then she wont fuck you.

Just do what is fun for you.

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I may be wrong, but I thought it was pushing a girl away versus pulling her closer. I think you may have it backwards, sir (not that it matters)

I may be wrong, but I thought it was pushing a girl away versus pulling her closer. I think you may have it backwards, sir (not that it matters)

yea i'll claim fuckin up on that one. i was rushed and not payin 100% attention to what i wrote.....either way op, do what makes you happy and what's fun for you. if she doesn't like it; that's her damn problem. in the mean time, wait another 20 mins for a new girl to come along.

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One of the problems with treating girls like s*** is that you lose them in the long run.

Keeping the game going, keeping the girl interested, making the girl like you, gently releasing her back to other boys, and finding a new girl is a process. If you treat girls like S*** you can forget calling them in 6 months for a random hook up when you are bored. You can forget them telling you to hook up with one of their friends.

You don't want to become abusive. Treating people like s*** creates negative Karma and is not the point of being a pick up artist.

it's just like fishin!!!

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this makes me sad

There's a difference between alpha and ass hole.

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