alright last night i was with my friend andy at a bar and he gets a tex from this girl at work whcih he has been talking to to come over (chrissy). wen we get there ther are 5 ppl there 2 afcs and 2 roomates ( casey roomate#1 complete gernade and penny roomate#2 pretty cute). so any ways i walk in there and completley own the room control the topics etc etc even make firends wit the afcs. so any ways wer in an apartment complex and we are on the 2nd floor and they have really cute neighbors and i start talking about how good they are looking and we starting shouting across balconies and eventually 4 girls come into thier apartment but then go downstairs and tell us we can go down there if we want to.

the 2 roomies knkow that my friend andy is gonna hook up with chrissy so i decided on taking penny. so anyways the 2 afcs leave so its game time right.... so keep in mind we are all drinking and i fell pretty drunk. so we go downstairs her are 6 girls and 4 guys they are all like muscular afcs i brealk the awkwardness to my best cus everyone is gay as fuck and i decide to leave grab the beer and go back up stairs etc so she is asking wether my i prefer blond or brunettes. because andy negged her and said brunettes. i said i like brunettes vodka.LMAO. then she aske again and i said red head? then she says if i had to choose i said it really doesnt matter. but any ways andy and his girl are in the room. at this point i want the fat gerenade to go back to her room so i can take care of buisness

so for some reason we are playing wit our hair cus i got long hair and im doing some kino and shit but her roomate is still there but anyways long story short i call her to the patio and then try to kiss her! LMAO but she turns but i planted one on the lips and then goes tot her room and goes to sleep remeber she was in the room and before wiht the fat roomie but i clled her out and she went back in locked herself and went tto bed. i WAS PISSED but i didnt show it i actefd like nothing. the gernade was cleaning up and i just played it cool and told her id help out a little and then told her ill be back to pick my friend up and by coincidence he came out and we left.

A few notes:
1 she cheered me for being single while drinking beer.
2 asked me if i was single but i stayed quiete i am single tho
3 her bag was open and i pointed out the birth control pills and told me gotta be safe ( pretty sure it was a sign of DTF)
4 asked me what size her boobies wer LOL
5 wen i called her out to her room and asked if she was mad bcause of the hair color question she said "im too soft".

soo i saw all the signs of i had it in the bag but wtf.. and why didnt the fat roomate leave us alone? so i am asking myself where did i go rwrong?

ps we all go to the same univeristy..

guys any hints tips critique and CONSTRUCTIVE critiscim i would gladly appreciate.

The "fat roomie" didn't leave you guys alone because she's selfish and inconsiderate, and jealous that her girl friends had guys all over them, and instead she's left being... who she is. She could look attractive if she wanted to, but in her mind, it's easier just to be bitchy and self-centered, rather than DO anything about the problem. Pretty much every group of girls has one of these...

From The Art of War for Dating by Eric Rogell:
"First, you need to pay attention to the grenade. Usually this is enough to disarm her, especially if part of why she's giving you a hard time is that she's craving attention."

By doing that, she sees that you value/notice her, and she thinks "this guy's actually pretty cool". But she'll probably see what's going on between you two, and she'll end up deciding that you're better for her friend anyways. Neat, huh? If that doesn't work (doesn't always), then you need to get the girl you're with to dismiss her or leave her. That is usually best done by telling the girl you have something secret to tell her or for her ears only. If the girl really is into you, she'll usually ask the other girl to leave, or else will find a place for you two to go to that's more private.

What this girl did, though, it seems like something changed, by your account. When she asked you if you were single, I would have absolutely have answered "yes". No reason why not to, if you are. And then the girl will start fantasizing, whereas otherwise she will control herself and won't do it because she doesn't want to perceive herself as a slut who sleeps with a taken man.

Bottom line, you should have been a little more take charge, own, control, etc. Be a little bolder. I wouldn't have gotten drunk, because being completely sober in this scenario would have made you the absolute authority. I would have isolated this girl before all of this happened, using something like what I said above.

You can't get every girl. Some girls, you're just going to goof up with. It happens to me, it happens to you, it happens to everybody. And some times, it's nothing you did wrong. The situation or girl just won't allow everything to happen the way you plan. Don't be hard on yourself, just try again with a new girl, and if you run into these same scenarios, try some of the advice from me and other people on the forum.

Good luck, man!

ur right man.. also to mention she also metioned tha we didnt have to drive and we wer welcome to stay overnight TWICE. and ur right for the gernade part i have the book i shoud re read it.. THANKS BRO!

I dunno, I think there were a few flaws in your game, but then again I would have just fucked her in front of the fatty anyway.

Your approach seems pretty good, but don't ever go to the "did that thing I said bother you" place. It just kills whatever momentum you had.

Never be afraid to escalate infront of a cock blocker. Just smile at them while you do it. It has this weird train-wreck effect where they aren't rooting for you, but can't look away and morbidly want to see how far you'll go.

If your target uses her as an excuse for resistance, just freeze her and invite the fatty to a private chat. She'll know exactly what you are doing, but is stuck because fatty is her friend. In the private convo DO NOT ask her permission, do not try to game her for real, just buddy up a little like two human beings and then try to find a way to trick her into leaving the room for just a little bit.

It will give you a window to push for rapid escalation, hopefully enough to spark the flames of lust and then your target will be your partner in crime to sneak away.

Otherwise, just fuck her right there and let fatty watch. Whats the worst that happens, she drools a little? Most likely she will just get irritated and leave anyway.

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