Ok...I slept on a sofa with this girl and we kissed alot...the next night we went on a date and again more kissing before she went home.


We plan to meet up in about 3 weeks time and I am travelling 3 hours to her flat. We are going out for the evening and I am staying there, possibly for 2 nights.


I want something serious with this girl but I am pretty much a noob with dates of this nature.


What exactly should go down? Do I need to make sure we are an item at the end of my stay there?


Any tips/routines would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks

... You slept on the same couch as her, but didn't have sex with her? You need to do some major escalation...

Her brother is one of my best friends....Ive wanted her for 18 months now so was trying to be respectful


She mentioned to me the next night that her friend 'asked if the couch needed cleaned' but she said it didnt and smiled.


I will be sleeping at her apartment after the next date etc....probably meeting her housemates etc.


What exactly would you reccomend bro?

Also there was plenty of kissing the next morning, ran my hands down her legs and butt etc....

I can appreciate your situation, and have no problem with you respecting her. But if that is the case, don't sleep with her if you're not having sex with her! I could go into the long specifics, but just know it's always a bad policy. Either Kino and lead towards something, or don't. It's like Mr. Miyagi says in the Karate Kid: Karate do, ok. Karate don't do, ok. Karate guess so, splat! Haha. Have you tried to have sex with her and she pushed you away, even if you've used LMR tactics? If so, then move on. If not, get on it!

I just want to share a quick story on the subject of respect:
One of my high school dances, I was a major AFC. I thought it would be sweet and classy and respectful to give my date a Hershey Kiss at the end of the night, instead of kissing her or having sex with her. She was expecting sex, because even though I was an AFC, I was popular and a pretty fly guy. She slapped me. Hard. She said that I hadn't respected her desire to have sex, and thus ruined the night. It was then I realized that not manning up could hurt a girl worn pushing too far, so I always err on that side of things now.

Shes never turned me down for sex no.

Those two days were our first kisses...tounges etc and for a while.


I will be sleeping in her bed after our night out...of that I am certain.


I guess its time I man up and carry on with the kissing and fuck her ha.


Now I have a few more issues:

I have never been to her town but my objectives are as follows:

1) she meets me at the train station - give her a warm hello and put my hand lightly on the small of her back and smile etc

2) go for some good for lunch - nothing major as it is like 3rd date - something like a cheap ish pizza parlour

3) go to her apartment, meet her SPAM and have higher energy - dont wait for her to introduce me to them but do this myself

4) have a shower etc then get dressed and take her out


**My sticking point here is I have never been to this town so is it ok to let her lead me to bars she likes etc?

> I thought I could do a little research into the cool bars etc and say 'I heard **** is pretty cool lets go there have you been?


We are going to a music concert so I plan to kiss close there once inside for a while - make my excuses to go to the bar and move in for a kiss. I have no fear kissing her after the last few dates.


***Another sticking point is two friends I know are also going to this concert so if they see us it could be 4 is a crowd? How do I handle this?

Ideally me and her will leave the concert alone and continue on a few bars before going back to her place, suitably drunk and then I can make my moves there.

Again, I didnt want to do this as I really want to be something to her for the long term but if having sex boosts this then why not?


Thanks