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PostPosted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 3:04 am 
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So this is my first post here. I am not in the game per say but I wanted to see if possible their are some mistakes you guys could point out in my approach.

So here is the story. I have been studying for grad schol with this chick for about a year. I always liked her but really had no balls to do anything. So After a while i would notice some IOI's like her touching my arm playfully with a joke. She would let me rub her arm softly or rest my hands on her leg or touch her hair with out budging. Our faces would often be very close together when we were reading out of the same book as well and that never seemed to bother her. However last week i noticed that she was not as touchy feelly with me as usual when we meet up and she even suggested that we sit across from each other when we study instead of side by side like we had been doing for the past couple months. So that was the final straw as i felt i completly lost my opurrtinuty and decided that I would try to kiss her the next time we met up no matter what.

So we went to a study class tonight. she drove. On the way their conversaion went as normal a little cocky funny type stuff and some IOI's like looking me in the eye and touching my arm. After the class on the way back we had normal conversation until we got to my place to drop me off. I was scared that I wouldn't go through with trying to kiss her as I had plans to try many times before but always wussed out. So I just went for it right before I got out the car I reached my hand over to pull her chin in and leaned forward to Kiss her and she complety backed off almost hitting her head on her own window. lol. When she did this I just sutck my tounge out at her with grin and laughed then got out of the car.

Can sombody help decipher if I miss read the singals or if my approach was off. Also on a side note. though she would give me the IoI's mentioned. Every time I asked her out she would always say she was busy not sure what that means.

HELP.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 2:23 pm 
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You're currently in the friend zone with this girl. You're the nice guy!
I've been in similar situations too, where I started liking a girl after thinking she was interested in me because of all the IOIs she's given me and all the touchy/feely/close encounters we've had.... but all that can lead to nothing if you don't build sexual tension between you guys.

Right know you don't know if she likes you or not. You're just guessing. There's probably a chance since she likes hanging with you and is playful sometimes, but you have to become more aggressive and playful yourself. (When I say aggressive I don't mean forcefully try to kiss her in surprise... that usually won't work)

My mistake has always been trying to seduce girls by being social and friendly. And it doesn't work. You have to be seductive.

Next time she hangs out with you... build some tension between you guys and make her feel a little uncomfortable. Have you ever been in a conversation w/ a girl where after you guys stop talking there's silence... and did you ever feel the need to say something to kill that silence? DON'T. Don't try to entertain her.

It's easiest to be seductive while listening.
While she is talking keep eye contact with her. Your face expression should be relaxed and calm. You should be layed back and just enjoying her beauty.
When you both stop talking there's tension right?
Don't feel the need to fill the vacuum by re-starting the conversation.
You're just killing the tension...
She will try to bait you, by giving you the "why are you looking me like this" face OR by verbally asking you "what is it?" or "why are you looking me like that?"
Ignore her!
or just say "I'm just looking at you" or "I'm just enjoying the view" or something like that;)

Now the whole point of escalating the vibe that way is to find out if she likes you.
After you unveil that tension you have to make a move.
Usually guys will go for the kiss which can lead to a harsh rejection.
or they will escalate verbally by telling her she's so beautiful.. those are both wrong.

You need to progressively but smoothly move closer to her, give her some sexual looks in her eyes or by looking at her mouth... you don't have to stop talking either, just talk slowly and use a lot of pauses. Don't seem too interested in her either. You need to get into that close/touching situation again, and you have to escalate the touching step by step and slowly so it does not seem awkward or out of the blue, which will cause her to be defensive (like when you went for the kiss randomly).

This kind of sexual tension build up is to see how she reacts to your small IOIs, if she's comfortable with you, she will probably not move away when you initially get closer or just caress her arm a little bit. And as you increase each escalation level, the next level is not as big of a leap and much easier to do. So next time you go for the kiss make sure you're at the stage where your cheeks are rubbing or your mouth is really close to each other.

Here's an awesome escalation video series:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DsVwYqVhdU


If you watch this video, you will know exactly what I'm talking about if you're kinda confused. All the videos in this series is GREAT and helped me out a lot.


Good luck buddy! I hope this helped you in any way.

Remember, don't ever verbalize your escalation by saying you like her or that she's beautiful! Don't give her any compliments. You already showed her you liked her by trying to kiss her. That's ok. I would suggest you be more cocky and indifferent around her, say some asshole remarks here and there, be a little mean to her but make her laugh too. You can even make a joke about that time you awkwardly tried to kiss her (baller status right here!)... because for some reason you thought you were with mila kunis or something lol.

And don't be afraid to build sexual tension or making anything awkward because you want her, and you want to be MORE than friends, so that's what you gotta do. If you just try to entertain her and be her friend when she needs you.. you will just remain in the friend zone. And the friend zone sucks when you like a girl.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 6:08 pm 
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So this is my first post here. I am not in the game per say but I wanted to see if possible their are some mistakes you guys could point out in my approach.

So here is the story. I have been studying for grad schol with this chick for about a year. I always liked her but really had no balls to do anything. So After a while i would notice some IOI's like her touching my arm playfully with a joke. She would let me rub her arm softly or rest my hands on her leg or touch her hair with out budging. Our faces would often be very close together when we were reading out of the same book as well and that never seemed to bother her. However last week i noticed that she was not as touchy feelly with me as usual when we meet up and she even suggested that we sit across from each other when we study instead of side by side like we had been doing for the past couple months. So that was the final straw as i felt i completly lost my opurrtinuty and decided that I would try to kiss her the next time we met up no matter what.

So we went to a study class tonight. she drove. On the way their conversaion went as normal a little cocky funny type stuff and some IOI's like looking me in the eye and touching my arm. After the class on the way back we had normal conversation until we got to my place to drop me off. I was scared that I wouldn't go through with trying to kiss her as I had plans to try many times before but always wussed out. So I just went for it right before I got out the car I reached my hand over to pull her chin in and leaned forward to Kiss her and she complety backed off almost hitting her head on her own window. lol. When she did this I just sutck my tounge out at her with grin and laughed then got out of the car.

Can sombody help decipher if I miss read the singals or if my approach was off. Also on a side note. though she would give me the IoI's mentioned. Every time I asked her out she would always say she was busy not sure what that means.

HELP.
Hey man.. your problem is very simple.. you are stuck in the friends zone for 6 months.. and one day you just decide to jump on her awkwardly.. you did not calibrate your game at all.. first of all.. you shoud'v at least try to kino escalate and see her responses.. if she responds back.. or doesn't give you any IOD.. you have a much more chance of getting a KC.. so you know already that she maybe is feeling you..second of all..i bet you never told her that you liked her sometimes.. she needs to know that you're attracted to her and you're not just a friend.. again try to see her responses when you say this.. hope this helped you out!


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