Hi, I'm new here and I'd really appriciate if you guys could give me some good advice. Like how do I go on from here.

There was this birthday party last weekend where a good friend of mine invited me. My friend, his girlfriend and I joind the party at about 9pm in a local pub. Everyone was already there, about 12 ppl, 8 girls and 4 guys everyone about 25-30yo, I'm 25. Almost everyone in the company was Russian as it was one Russain girl's birthday. I was introduced to everyone and my friend told me that there was only one single girl in the company. She was called Irina. At about 10pm we all left for a fancy dance club. I was beginning to like this girl Svetlana who came to party without her long term boyfriend. She was a friend of Irina. First I asked Svetlana for some hand cream and talked to her for about 2-3 minutes. She was really friendly with but no IOIs. Than in the club is was talking to all the girls around and always positioned myself so that I would be surrounded with ladies, to get Svetlana's attention. I talked and danced with her friends. About half an hour later everyone was drunk and I decided to give some tests to Svetlana. I gave her the Strawberry Fields test, a few qualifications test which she all loved I went on with kinos and then she told me that she has a boyfriend for 3 years but she's really fed up with him. So I started teasing her with she beaing too much of a good girl and not being adventurous. She said she was fun and adventurous, and how cool she thought I was and how much she liked me. So I thought this was the moment for a kiss: I asked her if she wanted to kiss me but she said no! So I told her that I never said she could. Big mistake that she was not separated from her friends enough. I went on with false disqualifiers and she was just more and more turned on. From that on she wanted to kiss me a few times but I just didn't let her. I told her that she was too much of a good girl for that (note that I was pretty drunk by then, so was she). We were dancing as one and kept talking to each other so that our lips touched a lot, but no kiss. She even kept grabbing my ass. At about 2am everyone was leaving the club and about the 6 of us were waiting for taxies on the street. I said goodbye I asked Svetlana for her phone number but she said that she didn't want to give me that becasue of her boyfriend and she asked me to add her on facebook instead so that we could chat there.

I wrote her on facebook a day later that I'm going out shopping to the mall close to her workplace one afternoon and she could join me and help me to pick a present for a friend of mine. I also added that she can only come if she's not "too much of a good girl for that". 2 days passed, no reply. Now she wrote on her facebook wall that she's going to Thailand with her boyfriend this weekend for holiday and she's really looking for it.

I know I messed this up. And now today a friend told me that Svetlana's boyfriend was out of town for several days and she didn't even go home that night (it was too far away), so she went over to sleep at Irina's place insted.

I know I should have separated her, go for a kiss and do an f-close that night in the nearest hotel.... I was so stupid. What else did I do wrong? And what can I do now?? How can I make her want me? She ignored my message... Please help me.

You'll show DLV if u still try to go for her, One after she tried to kiss u and u didnt she thought u werent into her so that ends that what u should of did was give her alittle kiss and throw her around with stories and dancing i would of danced in a seductive manner like act like ur going in for the kiss and dance around her and keep her guessing and when she thinks u will just do it again u go in. If u actually like this girl and want to take the effort i would get into her friend circle and just keep throwing out sexual energy and do things for the friends and when she comes to you push her away and playfully joke and talk about how her boyfriend is the greatest saying things that he doesnt do and when she says he doesnt be like ohhh well things happen. Now she's crazing what she doesnt have which is you. Invite her to your place for a casual hang out, put in a movie and builg up kino if she wants to go further she will "get comfy" and cuddle up to you and then either at the credits or at a slow part look into her eyes giving her the jolt of sexual tension and go in dont ask just go if she is hesitant go to whisper in her ear and then look back and neg her for thinking you were going to kiss her that will drive her nuts. keep repeating until she comes into it.

You should have pulled her back in. Push and pull is good but you pushed her away too much/too long. The first time she would have tried to kiss me I would have stopped her teased her then kissed her that same minute, don't wait too long. As to why she ignored your message. My theory is she got drunk that night, was attracted to you and 1. Either you pushed her too far away too long and she thought your not interested or 2. She came to her senses when she sobered up and was glad she didn't cheat and wants to keep it that way despite being fed up with her bf. Very few girls want to have cheating on their record. Most likely it was #2 because if it was #1 she would have at least responded to your message even if to remain friends if she was still interested even a little.

My best bet is slowly befriend her but don't be her guy bff or anything. just be on the edge of her radar and do what maull3r said.

Thans a lot Maull3r, chazman! Now I'm like arrr... I should have known that! At least I should have given her a little pull not just all the pushes. Now I think it was option #2: she liked me 1st but then she sobered out and maybe her friends talked her out of it also, that's why she never replied to my facebook msg. How do guys mean getting into her social circle? Her boyfriend would probably be with her next time. Like at any party probably. I don't think there is a chance for meeting her 1on1 as she didn't even reply my msg. Or if I invited Svetlana and her friends to my place, she would come with her bf (but i'm not even sure if she came). Any tips on that?

Let him come thats the best time to show that u have higher value then he does. Act like nothing matters your just the life of the party. And when u have those few seconds with her alone just turn up the heat a little and back off, what i mean is her social circle is bigger then you think most beautiful women have lots of friends and places that they are well known if u find those out and get in good with the owners and workers there thats huge rapport. Be that guy everyone cant stop talking about so where ever she goes she hears your name and listening to them dhv you up and dlv her boyfriend.

Cool, I will definitely do that, invite her and her bf too. This might take some time till I get to see her again though (She's leaving for Thailand for I think 2 weeks now with her bf). Do you think I should even get friendly with her boyfriend? I will get friendly with all her friends for sure:D

dont, always make him guess are u a friend or not. He will get all fucked in the head and start changing which she wont like it so she'll run to you for that comfort just be fun and out going u got this

Don't be afraid to befriend/talk to her boyfriend too if you have to. It may help calm any suspicions of what kind of guy you are if you at least say a friendly hello/whatsup/how's it going?

I'm not saying to kiss his ass but if your casually friendly and respectful to him like another alpha male that could DHV yourself, then you can probably get away with a lot more of talking to his gf except for maybe tons and tons of kino and kissing (when he's watching that is )

If he's still guarded and gets jealous of you even talking or being near her then that will definitely DLV him.

Do try to talk, befriend, and game other girls though. Don't stare at her too much too often try and act like you forgot about that night or moved on and are not interested. If she sees other girls all over you then that is a definitely a DHV.

Some great advice, thanks a lot guys! I really appreciate it.

After 6 months of no contact I bumped into this girl, Svetlana at a friend's house party again! She might have known that I would be there. She is moving apart from her long term boyfriend within a few days to a friend of her (a girl). They are about to break up with her BF, she came to the party alone. By the way she never replied to that message I sent her in February and I never contacted her since.

To make it short: I ignored her for the first hour of the party. Than she came to talk to me and all the kinos and IOIs were coming. Than we all left to a club. A losts of IOIs and kinos were going on, so I separated her, than we ended up kissing like crazy till 4am. I asked her if she would like to sleep at my place but she said that we couldn't have sex now... I told her that she cannot have sex with me till marriage anyway so don't even think about it. But rather she asked me to walk her home (to that girls place she's moving to soon), and also asked me if I would like to come over for dinner on Monday (today). I walked her home and sent her a facebook message right there tru my phone and told her that if she replies to that one, I will know that she means it and than I would love to come over. Looong goodbye kiss. She was drunk, needless to say.

She didn't repily to that message.

So my question is: Should I write her again? Like an inside joke or something? Or what should I do?

Any good advice is really appriciated!

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anyone pls?

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"You miss 100 percent of the shots you never take."
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Forget about this girl, man. Sounds kind of like you might be getting a slight case of oneitis. FTOW!!!

No worries, it's not oneitis. I'm seeing two other girls now, it's just that I don't know how to handle this one. I was thinking if going no contact and see if she sends me any signals (through the friends we have in common, like my facebook pics, etc). What do you guys think? Any suggestions?

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You told her to reply if she was interested, she didn't reply. That's a rejection, of a sort. Seems like your game was great, all the attraction was there, but maybe not enough comfort? Whatever it was (and it may not fit to a attraction+comfort+whatever=close sort of formula) there may be nothing you can do about it. You have two options, from what I see.

Move on, let her come to you if she wants to, but live your life without her for now.

Alternately, send a facebook message (since that's how she likes to communicate; a phone call would be stronger) and make a strong statement of interest. She may be flaking because she's attracted to you, but she isn't sure if you'll have any chemistry when you're sober. Make it clear you still want her, in a sweet, but not needy way.
My message would be: "Hey! I'd still really like to see you, you really disappointed me when you didn't reply to that message. I want to do this right though, let me take you out to dinner sometime and we can talk." (Someone's going to say that taking her out to dinner is AFC. I'd say in this case it shows respect for her as a person and romantic interest, and it says she's not someone you just want to hook up with.)

Thanks a lot for your comment! It really could have been the lack of comfort... If I ever have a chance again, I'm gonna work on that part more.

But for now I think I'm gonna have to stay no contact because it matches my previous strategy more. I don't want to be seen as needy or make her think that she has me. I'm afraid any message sent would be too much of a contradiction to the things that I've been doing.

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