This happens all the time, right?

Im at club or lounge, get it going very well with chick that came with her friend or more friends....and the vibe is one, close kiss at venue.....but then even wether trashed or sober, they will not leave their friend or group and go home with you....

I understand its various female psyche emotions at work.....but I also know many PUAs succesfully perform same nite lays...

so how does one go about it??

I've dubbed myself "The King Of Club Game",so I can assist her.

Well,the community's answer to this sticking point is to befriend the obstacles(her friends).

And Im gonna add my bit to this.

You(the PUA)cannot be a social violator and expect to pull the girl to another venue without obstacles.

Example of a social violator:You spot the OYD(object of your desire)with her group of girls.

Rather than acknowledging her friends by being friendly to them or even saying hi,you just go straight to the target and blab away.

Yuo've become a social violator by being rude to the set.

Thus,any attempts by you to try isolating the target will be blocced by her friends,who sees you as a violator.

BTW,this isnt my concept;I read it from a Love Systems-online article years ago.

But it makes total sense.

You have to create a positive impression on her friends by simply being cordial or literally befriending them.

Doesnt matter if she's DTF(thank The Situation for that term-lol),once her girl friends girl code her to not leave with you-you're essentially friggin' toasted.

So it makes it much easier to get in with her friends.

There are other techniques but I think this one's key here.

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I have never sat down to think about it, but what K loc says is absolutely true. Having wings can help you out by distracting/breaking up her friends while you make your escape.

@K Loc- have to say DTF was coined from the movie Superbad lol though yes in that show they tend to say it a lot.

thanks but I dont know why you assumed I was not friendly to her friends. I always am.

@Andd-Lol,thanks for the correction,I actually thought Jersey Shore's Mike coined that.

Thanks for the co-sign also on befriending obstacles.

@Refelex-Then whats the prob bro'(lol)?

Then I wanna believe that you hadn't built enough comfort & trust with the target.

The target doesnt feel secure enough to go home with you.

So work on that(comfort building).

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How much time have you spent with the HB's before trying to extract? I agree with K-loc and andd95 on be-friending her friends and building comfort.

Are you using a direct approach to get the k-close or an indirect one? If a direct one than maybe you need to go in-direct at first to involve her friends and build rapport with them and then switch to direct game once she's out of earshot of them. Same result but you've included her friends in the routine

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@Ocelot1-Agree with you 100%.

How soon is he trying to extrac the target?

That's key.

In fact,it my come down to just that;prematurely trying to extract the girl before building enough comfort & trust.

Good question Ocelot1 about extraction(how soon).

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I encounter this problem often and it seems to be related to the age groups, I find the 20-25 year olds easiest to extract.

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@Charm The Rabbit-Wow,I never thought of that.

I'd have to analyze that.

Sorry for hijacking the post but have you ever heard of the dating coach Mcmaax(since you're from Toronto)?

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No sorry I haven't??

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