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PostPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 6:25 pm 
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Hi all,

I'm new to this forum and I think it's a great opportunity to learn. I signed up about a week ago after a friend gave me a tip to check it out. Here's the story...

I have always been a very shy guy, not just meeting girls, but in general. There was even the point that during my internship my mentor told me to socialize more with my collegues or they had to end my internship for not being able to talk to my collegues. After that message from my mentor I started to change somewhat. I actually developed myself into a manager for the company. This was the start of my less shy and more social life.

I never had many friends and neither did I have many girlfriends in my life. Often I found myself going to clubs just by myself, chatting with both guys and girls only accidently. Sometimes trying to grind some girls, but in general always ending up dancing by myself hoping for this one girl to come to me and start dancing/talking to me. The only girlfriends that I had were hardly better than a 6 and they were girls I had met online through some chatrooms.

At some point a friend of me introduced me to a whole new group of people. I was overwhelmed by enthousiasm. Basically because the open minded characters within the group. Pretty much all of them didn't mind meeting new people and were so grateful towards me when I first attended an event with them. I started to make friends, loads of friends. Each of them introduced me to their friends, and they did the same. Not much later I saw myself organizing massive parties, gatherings and other social events. Always with friends, but also all the time with new people. From being a total social retard I became the alpha male of that group. All the girls love me, hug me, kiss me (on the cheeks), introduce me to their even hotter friends and tell me that they wouldn't know what to do if I would ever decide to leave the city. All the guys admire me, consider me as their brother and some even as their best friend. Recently someone told me I'm the master of seduction because of the fact that all girls seem to love me. BUT... there is one big problem. It hardly goes further than that.

I have fucked four times in the last year, of which three times with my SPAM in between boyfriends and one time with a completely drunk girl from outside our group that told me to do anything with her as long as I used a condom. I have kissed an additional two girls outside of our group, but that's basically it. I have the feeling that I could do MUCH MUCH more, but I don't manage to do so. Whenever I get big IOIs from girls within the group, also on the first day I meet them, I simply freak out when it comes to the actual kiss. I don't dare to go for it, affraid for rejection in front of all my other friends or something like that. I hear you saying to isolate her and take her a bit away from the group or something like that, but I am totally crap at isolating people from the group as I feel I am obliged to stay within the group as an organizer of all these festivities. But even in case I do manage to isolate her from the group I am still affraid for rejection and for ruining my reputation within the group. Girls within the group kiss/fuck different guys in our group every week, still I don't know what to do.

When it comes to approaching girls from outside our group I am very shy. I take steps in that direction from time to time and I have the feeling I could improve that by practicing, specially now that I have been reading this website and I am halfway reading "The Game" now as well. Yesterday I was out to watch the Super Bowl with some friends and I was actually not on a mission, but I ended up doing my first approach after I joined this website.

The game was half way the 3rd quarter when I noticed a girl standing right beside me. She was all alone, texting someone and didn't look at me. I decided to open her and asked her which team was her favourite. She looked up and told me she wanted the Steelers to win the game. We talked a bit more about the game and then she asked me for my name. I answered her and asked for her name as well, in the meantime we shook each others hand and when I squeezed her hand, she squeezed back. When I asked her why she was there just by herself she said she was there with her boyfriend. I was like oh my god, my bad luck again. However she said her boyfriend just went home as he actually dumped her two weeks before and they just met up that night again, but they started arguing again which made him leave. I pretended to feel sorry for her and gave her a hug, which she gratefully accepted. She asked me if I was alone too and I said no I'm not. I introduced her to my friends and let her talk to them for a while. She then moved back next to me, but started texting someone again. I started to talk to my friends who told me I should better talk to her. I said, no if she's interested she'll come back to me after she's finished texting.

Basically I was waiting for her to finish texting and to see what was going to happen. I was a bit nervous as normally I would go and talk to her again myself, but I felt like not doing that this time. A couple of minutes later I felt her hand on my shoulder and she actually asked me to explain some of the rules of the game. Quite a big IOI in my opinion as she was watching the game from the start and I couldn't believe she didn't know the rules. I explained her and we kept on chatting further. She asked me if I had been to Thailand before. I told her no and said I had been all over Europe, North America, some of Africa, but never to Asia, Australia and South America yet. She responded with telling me I should never go to Australia because I would get killed by a coconut. I looked at her and was like WTF? She kept on telling more about it that because of heavy winds coconuts would fall down unexpectedly and right on your head, which would kill you. I didn't really know how to respond and just looked at her with a silly face and just came up with some other things that had to do with coconuts and Australia. Aparently she liked it as she was laughing a lot. She continued the talk about Australia and started to say that Australia is also dangerous because of crocodiles. She came up with a long story about the animals and we looked each other deep in the eyes. I made some funny faces and came closer to her face. I felt like I could have kissed her there, BUT...... of course I hesitated again.

We kept on talking and I asked her about music, and to what places she goes to when going out. She actually named some places that I go to myself as well and I told her we should go together some day. She said yes and I asked her for her phone number. I also asked her for her last name, which she gave me straight away. I asked her if she was using the same name on Facebook and she said yes and you can add me on there. Not much later the game was nearly finished and she asked me where the exit was. I told her she had to climb two stairs and then walk all the way to the other side of the place. As we could only see one of the stairs she asked me where the second one was. I said I'd walk with her to show her. When we were there I gave her a hug and a kiss on both cheeks before saying goodbye. Also here I probably could have kissed her. BUT.... of course I hesitated again. Then I went back to my friends and we left ourselves as well. When I got home I texted her and said it was nice to meet her and that I was hoping she would be home safe shortly. This morning I added her on Facebook and she already accepted me on there.

What to do with the girls from my group?
What to do with the Super Bowl chick?

I have the feeling there is a lot of potential and that it's just a small step away from me. Even a female friend told me this weekend that she is surprised that she never saw me kissing anyone. I told her I do get close to women, but that I prefer not to do it in front of my friends, but just meet them in private.

Thanks for reading and for whatever you're going to say to help me out and improve my skills.


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Well, seems to me that you're doing just fine pal. The Super Bowl chick is eating out of your hand and just go for it.

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Haha yes you have a problem there. And it's really simple. But it will be a lot of hard work, but you seem to be no stranger to that, so it's all good.

Basically you're not confident in trusting your urges. I tell myself nowadays that 90% of my urges are spot on, and the only way they will fail is if I hesitate and miss the moment and try to do it later - even seconds later and it could be severely crippled depending on the context.

As for the remaining 10% where your urge is misplaced for some reason? Equally as important, because those are times where you need to demonstrate what happens when things apparently don't go your way. Pretty much what you do is just keep rolling like it never happened. You have to feel your way through of course, if an apology is required, give one, in the right way of course - this may be earnest or light hearted, depends on the situation. But don't "crack".

It could be that your urges are only 50% correct or less, becaus you're extremely socially inexperienced, but that refinement just comes wih constant exposure. But you personally sound like you have a good sense of things already.

And so basically what it boils down to is practicing trusting your urges and just following through with them - it requires a lot of conscious effort I tell you - because you have to bash throguh a wall of years of negative thinking, all in a few seconds. Just constant exposure, over and over again, your feel for things gradually improves each time, it all builds up and amounts to experience.

So startin at the start of yiur interaction with her, you probably could have picked up that she was willing to talk, and you should have started the conversation. But she did it for you. And she didn't need to know the rules of the game or where the stairs were, she was just giving you excuses to interact with her, which is mega ioi.

She may have even hoped you would find an excuse for her to come over - I do this honestly "well it's up to you - if you're not tired you can come over and watch some DVDs.." whatever.

And you def know you should have kissed her when you felt likE it. Tell yourself - she can feel it too. And she will judge you if you don't follow through.


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Thanks lads, just wanted to say that. I will come up with a more detailed reply later on.


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