I was at a party last night where I was talking to this HB9. I was getting enough IOI's for me to decide to get her number. I was even able to call her from the other side of the club by just waving my hand and signaling her. She came to me as soon as I waved.

That's when I asked her for her age, cause, and that's what I told her, I have a age-limit when it comes to asking a phone number. This is what she said

You: So I have this policy about asking a girls number, I only ask their number if she's above a certain age.
She: What age is that.
You: I only ask +18 girls for their number
She: you'll be lucky to know I'm 19.
You: Great, so now I'm able to consider asking your number later on this evening.
She: Well, me giving my number also depends on your age then.

I first teased her by not telling my age but ultimately I told her (which is 20). We talk a bit more and I walk off to my friends, leaving her at the spot where I signaled her to come in the first place.

The night goes on, I open up other sets etc and at the end of the night I again approach the girl and say

You: So it's decided, you're cool enough to be in my phonelist.
She: I'm sorry, you're not getting it.
You: Too bad, but I'm not a beggar as well, so have a good night.

and I walked off. Played it cool but I was raging on the inside. How is it possible after our conversation and all the IOI's she just blew me off like that.

any thoughts?

If you have an age limit don't tell them that you give them too much control if they are in the age and they way u asked for the numb gave her an easy out of saying no. If u wana get her age at the start of a convo and u want to neg them say something like

You: "so how old r u btw?"
Her: im blah..
You: "Ohh I thought for sure u were older "

Or in your situation u shudv said "leme grab ya number" then if she says no u can tease her and still be able to get it.

Hahah Novah, to build attraction you build rapport with them. You don't act like you're full of yourself. You had the attraction building up but then you let it go by walking away and spending the rest of the night hitting on other girls. That's not the way to behave when you're interested in someone. So she figured you weren't that interested. And of course when you came back and said that, it turned her right off.

I don't think I agree with Conker. After all, you're not supposed to show her too much interest. You're there to have fun, you're having it and she's lucky to have been given the opportunity to take a part of that fun with you. You're not even afraid of losing her, since you're leaving her, thus risking not ever seing her again (you never know if you'll meet again before she leaves). This is good.

However, I don't like the age limit thing either. I mean, first of all, as has been said, you give her full control. Second, you give her a heads up on your intentions and your interest, so what you gain from what I wrote in the previous paragraph, you lose right there.

Also, never ask for a girls number. Just hand her the phone and say "type" or whatever. Or get her to ask for your number.

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You don't think you agree with me, and told him to do exactly what he already did, but funnily enough, it didn't work for him. What else needs to be said?

What you said was the typical PUA ideals, which are just to shake guys out of their scared anti-socialness, but eventually you have to bring it back to showing interest, but in an alpha way. Do you honestly think you'll get girls chasing you by not acting interested in them? Go around to any couple you know, ask them how they met, and count the number of them that started out with the guy not acting interested, and ignoring her.

What you seem to be talking about is completely ignoring her and hoping for that to send her right into your arms. Of course that doesn't work, but there's quite a big difference between that and making a false takeaway.

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The ONLY reason they tell you "not to show interest" is to avoid you making a fool of yourself. Of course if you are no good at showing interest, then doing less of it will cause less problems.

But the quickest way to move forwards is to show interest, in an alpha way. It does include giving the vibe that you're not emotionally attached to the outcome, but it involves MORE interaction, not less. All the number & F closes I've had recently were due to building a connection - you can't build a connection by making yourself more absent.

Sure, once you've made a connection, you can be a bit absent and make them want you more. But it's not being absent and disinterested that is the key... that's just a small element.

Yeah, I agree with all of that. I guess I misinterpreted your first response in this thread, which sounded to me like "be polite and show her interest like a real gentleman" which sounds really AFC.

However, showing interest in an alpha way is not easy for most people, so what advice to give all boils down to where OP stands in his inner game, I suppose. If he can not handle the alpha stuff just yet, then just stick to ABC stuff and maybe try some takeaways. I do it every now and then, when I feel like I'm about to lose the thread (which happens, because I'm still a novice). Then I just say hey, I'll see you later gotta get back to my friends. Sarging other girls will certainly not hurt his chances with the girl he's taken away from, as long as he's not openly rejected in a way that she notices. It's rather a DHV if he does well, and that way he can keep working the target without even working her.

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There are lots of 9s out there who'll be begging for you number soon so relax.

Next I think you made too big a deal about asking for her number. Find out her age another way. If she's too young then don't get her number.

You can guess her age. Maybe do a neg to get it or simply ask. Just don't tie stuff to asking for the number.

Peace bro you did great otherwise

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I myself have a strict policy, if that style works for you by all means don't take this advice, but, if I open a set or a single I have to stay with it to close.

if I leave I can't go back, I call it "letting the set get cold"

she gave you enough ioi's to guess she was also watching you open all the other sets, which may have helped the set get cold... also when possible try to make giving you her number her idea such as:
hey, I like this conversation but I need to get back to my group. is there a way I can get a hold of you later to finish our convo.

just a few thoughts...


-Lush