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| Luxuria | PostPosted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 5:06 pm | |
| Offline | | New to MPUA Forum | Joined: Sat Apr 10, 2010 6:24 pm Posts: 22 Location: Rugby, England | | I think it's a mix of the fear of getting rejected from a kiss, and the awkwardness which would then ensue afterwards, but whatever the cause I CANNOT pull the trigger and just kiss a girl unless she initiates.
Of my last 3 pick ups, the first one was killed stone dead (and her and I don't talk anymore) due to her thinking I wasn't interested. The next girl I really nearly lost were it not for her making a pass when she was drunk (k-close but I don't feel I earned it too well - I gamed her really well but wouldn't have gone for the k-close myself because I simply can't do it), and the third girl (last night), would have been my best yet. The signs were obvious, we hung out for ages, made a real connection and we had a great boyfriend/girlfriend style teasing thing going on. At some ungodly time in the morning (we were at her friend's house), I was sitting on the sofa, and she was sitting on my lap, cuddling in to me. Were that anyone else I'd have screamed at them for not making a move, but I simply couldn't for fear that I'd lose the set.
Any kind of routines or specific IOIs to look out for would go a long way to easing my troubles! Thanks.
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| Conker | PostPosted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 3:49 am | |
| Offline | | PUA Forum Leader |  | Joined: Sun Apr 12, 2009 7:52 am Posts: 1037 Website: http://pickupfixup.wordpress.com/ Location: Brisbane, Australia | | None.
Done this so many times, so pay attention to what I have to say;
Next time don't ignore the feelings... you know when you want to kiss her. Just do it -its' only akward if she turns you down if you behave awkward. Try saying this "I was just reading your body language" and don't be apologetic at all. She can say she didn't give any signals and you can just shrug. Let her think she was giving you the wrong signals.
And that's worst case. Odds are if you pay attention to your feelings, it will be the right time.
AND - there are no rules or social norms or situations that can override those feelings! NONE! If you get that feeling, that's the only reason you need to do it - doesn't matter if she has a boyfriend, if other people are watching, if you think you should wait for later - NO - fuck it - just do it.
Trying to decide whether or not to obey that feeling is like trying to change the way a sperm fertilises an egg. A kiss is the way the whole reproduction process starts, don't argue with evolution man, it knows best.
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| luminova | PostPosted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 5:52 am | |
| Offline | | MPUA Forum Enthusiast |  | Joined: Sun Jul 12, 2009 5:03 am Posts: 87 Location: Phoenix, AZ | | this line of thinking has helped drive me, i don't know if it will help you or not.
what is it you're afraid of losing by kissing her? have an awkward situation? blow it with her and have her stop talking to her?
you built this interaction up with her. however, this is a PU interaction. if you want it to work, you should not worry about what the repercussions of kissing her may be and realize what the repercussions of not kissing her will be. it will not fall apart if you pull the trigger (and if it does, it would have fallen apart anyways). it will, however, fall apart 100% for sure if you don't pull the trigger.
it is not a strange new thing, like jumping off a cliff, but simply the next step, staying on the path you are already on. _________________ >>> ascend to the next level
~Luminova~
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| ethan_hunt | PostPosted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 5:29 pm | |
| Offline | | New to MPUA Forum | Joined: Tue Apr 06, 2010 5:31 pm Posts: 12 | | Nike has a good way of putting things.... "Just Do It" and if you fail she will respect the fact you tried. "Its not what happens to the man, its how he reacts" So if she doesn't respond the k-close, just laugh and move onto a new subject really quick, and keep the same positive attitude. She will see you're unaffected by failure and she eventually want to know "why" you have so much confidence. She will be back for me.....trust me _________________ ~We just rolled up a snowball and tossed it into hell. Now lets see what chance it has.~
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| JTh20aa | PostPosted: Sun Aug 01, 2010 2:34 pm | |
| Offline | | New to MPUA Forum | Joined: Tue May 25, 2010 7:38 pm Posts: 6 | | My friend. I've learned valuable lessons when it comes to this from suprisingly guys who don't know the pua stuff yet they are f'ing lots of girls. Here's the thing...if the girl is meeting up with you they are interested. If no IOIs initially this does not mean they are not interested! I proved this fact just last week and just made my move from the side of her face and made my way to the front and started kissing. Be smooth about it. We eventually ended up at her place and I closed the deal. Point I'm saying make your move like you don't care. Outcome depedency is the worse thing to keep in your head. One of my wings are having this problem. Girls will practically throw themself at him and he does nothing. Cmon man! Unless she says no you escalate. Trust me after the first time changing the way you think about this will be awesome! Just ask my wing. I started french kissing a girl last night 5 minutes after talking. Girls like guys with confidence so GO FOR IT!
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