Hi guys, hows it going? Long time no speak.

I have encountered a slight problem. I am currently seeing a girl who has a boyfriend. Without questioning morals, because he is a dick and treats her like trash...

If at any point she develops a conscience, what do I do? Say for example I go for the Kclose and she talks about how she would feel bad because of her bf, I have no clue what to do.

Thanks very much guys! And I have developed my game pretty well over the past few months so any questions let me know and I will see what I can do

She won't, when you feel the moment is there, and everything is great, and you'll kiss her, she won't start about her boyfriend.. And if she would, I would say : "hmm yeah you're right, it'd be bad" . Which makes it forbidden and to some girls, very adventurous.

My exgirlfriend had a boyfriend .

Hey man I'm encountering the same issue as well.

Girl I'm crazy about has been dating this dude for like 4 and a half years. For the past 1.5-2 years he has been a douchebag to her; he has been disrespectful, lying etc.

She basically broke it off with the guy about a month ago. They really haven't been a "couple" in a long time; hell the guy isn't liked by practically anyone she knows.

I used many of the mystery techniques on her; I have the upper hand of knowing her and her brother since like 2003, so comfort is already there. I kissed closed her Monday (had opportunities before, but I definitely pulled the trigger that night). She told me allot of honest things about how she felt (all positive towards me); man I left that night feeling fucking super confident. I've never been with a girl so hot ( HB 9/9.5 definitely), so cool and so fucking sexy before =).

The thing to remember is that she may go back to her ex. You have to remember that woman are not entirely logical; you need to understand this risk. Despite the fact that the dude is a dick or was not good to her, there is this emotional pull of her towards the old bf. Only when the girl understands that the guy was a douch is when she can open up to you.

I can tell you that I am making progress; very good progress. I suggest doing a freeze-out and showing a willingness to leave (being non-needy etc) if she decides to "go see the ex" one day (obviously do this later on, not right now she hasn't dumped the dude yet). You are the prize; you are allot better to her than the dickhead she used to date. If she can't realize this then she is not the right one for you; some woman choose to be with dickheads; I actually dated a girl for a bit who broke it off with me and went back to the guy who hit her. She made her bed and now she's laying in it. I saw her on an airplane coming back from vacation one day (no shit, it was like "no fucking way"); she gained like 25 lbs in the past 7 months, looked unhappy and pissed off; went from a HB7.5-8 to a HB5 or 6.

The trick here is to make it so she'll think about her actions, she'll miss you and she realize that you're the better choice. Freeze-outs are scary to use sometimes (because you fear losing her), but they show you are NOT needy and you HAVE CHOICE. This shows confidence and confidence is sexy to woman.

The thing you have to do is get her to stop thinking of him. She will not totally be over him until this happens. Don't get too mushy or emotional with her; try to be fun and exciting around her. You want to be the best person you can be around her.

I got into pickup to find the right woman for me; I'm NOT about getting tons of pussy. Worshiping pussy can get you into allot of trouble lol. Some guys do it for pussy, some guys do it to date tons of woman, some guys do it just to be with different types of woman.

I thought this, before reading this reply and just went ahead accordingly. I have now f-closed her 4 times and still going, despite her still being with douchebag bf

Lakorai - "Don't get too mushy or emotional with her; try to be fun and exciting around her" great advice regarding any woman!