Hey Guys,

(Appologies for a long post)

I had two situations a while back where I came across LMR with two different girls. Both times we were in bed together and I had known the girls for a few weeks (this was before I started to learn about the art of PU).

The first time I was making out with HB and I thought we had both gotten to a highly arroused state (she was kissing me on the neck and grinding against me) so I thought -ok time for some clothes to come off, but when I tried she said something along the lines of 'what are you doing?'. So stepped off the gas a bit and kind of froze her out, and tried the same thing again when the arousal was high -but again the same thing happened.

The second time I was with a girl -we were holding hands and spooning in her bed -and I was looking into her eyes (I was being extremely AFC leading up to it but for some reason she let me get this far). She then looked me in the eyes as if realising for the first time what was going on and said 'it ain't gonna happen'. I remember asking her 'what ain't goin to happen' but she wouldn't elaborate further.

I still don't know how I'd go about it if either of these situations happened again. I was thinking maybe if I said something CF? If I used something like the EV phase shift routine I prolly would have had less chance of encountering the LMR in the first place.

Anyone got any suggestions on how to tackle it if something like this does come up again?

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