Hey world!

So I'm in a situation at the moment where I can't pull girls back to mine for SNL, so the best way to get girls into the bedroom would be to number close and get them round to mine.

So my first two questions are:

1. How would I go about number closing? (ie: how to introduce it, what to say, etc...)

2. When in the interaction would it be a good idea to go for the number close? (ie: once you know they're definitely interested, after k-close, when things turn more sexual, etc...)

I have used the advice in How to Succeed with Women about setting up a "priming date", then a 2nd "seduction date", which did end in her coming back to mine and me losing my virginity

The problems are that I'm trying to turn these girls into fuckbuddies, so 2 dates might not be suitable towards framing the interaction in the direction of casual sex - she might get emotionally attached
As well as that, girls may flake before I've even got round to organise the 'seduction date'

So my last two questions are:

3. How would you go about turning girls into fuckbuddies and dealing with them smoothly?

4. How quickly would you go about setting up the 'seduction'? Is this more appropriate?

Cheers,
Ninja

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I wish I had an answer for this question myself sometimes.. Its just gotta flow. Every girl is different. You gotta see it as a game or going into battle. You have to be confident in your ammo. Girls like when it "flows". It gives them a false sense of time. Seduction requires the ability to make a girl feel like she has known you for a very long amount of time in a very short amount of time. There's not really an "appropriate" time get a number unless shes leaving and you haven't time bridged and set up a day 2. I've had several girls where I WONT get their number but set something up for the weekend or whatever.

"yeah, a bunch of us are going out there this weekend! you should definitely come out with me "

You dont need a number for that... you just told her she should meet you there. By NOT getting her number you are telling her that you really dont give a fuck if she shows or not! This, in turn my friend, is how you turn them into a "fuck buddy." who ever cares first loses. if you want a girl to be a fuck buddy, you cant. fucking. care.

and as far as when seduction should start. right away. you know what you are doing. competence my friend. you remind me of myself. on a motorcycle going 100mph.. would you rather have competence (a healthy knowledge and fear of the bike) or confidence? keep in mind the things that you know and let them work for you. girls love it.

Is that not risky, not getting their phone number? I can only see it working if she's genuinely very interested in you (which for night-game can be quite difficult to achieve). Even then you would have to go through the act of organising an outing to that particular place and get someone to go with you (it would look odd if you showed up alone just for her).

I can understand the concept of not caring (and avoiding an emotional connection with said girl), but I think it's worth a mention that fuckbuddies are, ultimately, going to have each other's numbers so they can call each other up; it's something you won't be able to avoid, should she become your FB.

So straight ahead with the seduction date then, sounds good to me. Less risk of flaking over a shorter period of time and immediately screening for those sacred DTF girls

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well you have to ask to ask yourself these 2 questions: 1. How many fuck buddies do you want? (how many STDs and kids do you want running around) and 2. What's your purpose in seduction, going out, pickup, whatever you wanna call it.. to get laid or to get good? keep in mind man, most girls wont want just a fuck buddy. they want someone they can depend on. So if you can show them that they can depend on you, they will sleep with you (also have the possibility of you having one of their children... we are out dated biological machines. they are thinking "is this guy going to be able to take care of me and my children?") So that doesn't necessarily mean "dating." If your purpose is to "get good" when you go out then you should treat it just like a video game that you have beaten many times over and over again when you are out. You already know what happens at the end, you just want to master it. And that my friend is the difference between pick up and seduction. Any random guy can walk into any random bar and pick up any random girl. Personally, I would rather be the guy that can walk into a bar and give a girl an experience that she will never forget because it is so out of the ordinary. Think about it bro. Don't be the guy who defines himself by how many vaginas hes touched.