Not new to this. Just need a new approach to this situation. Girl I like has never kissed anyone. She is 18 (so am I)and has shut down boyfriends in the past. Says she wants to find someone she really likes first. (strange I know.) She told me she wouldn't kiss me so I haven't tried. I dont feel like throwing her back but I also dont want to not kiss her. Been on a few dates with her and she has made it clear verbally and via body language that she likes me. Any advice on how to get said kiss?

The girl sounds like way too much effort to me. I mean if it takes that much effort just to kiss her how hard do you think it's gonna be to get her in bed? And once you do finally get her there how good do you think the sex is going to be? (probably not that good). I'd move on.

Thanks for the reply Adam. I know it's going to be tough, but I'm willing to put in the hours. I'm not just in it for the f close. I actually like this girl. Since I don't want to drop her, do you think I should freeze her out for a couple weeks, just ignore her texts or should I take her out again and try to build up to the kiss with some heavy kino? Something else?

Ok well if you like her that much then go for it. I'm probably not the best person to advise you because I would usually just next a girl like this, like I said it sounds like way too much effort even if you're trying for a relationship. But I'd say forget about freezing out, the only way you're going to win her over really is through persistance.

Yeah i'm not great at pua stuff but this area i'm not too shabby at. u gotta hang in there...she'll come around.

tease her, get in close and say something like mmm you smell so good, then you can back off a bit. She wont know what you're trying to do. I would mind fuck her that way just to teach her a lesson. Then I'd build lots of attraction and comfort. You should be able to kiss her then.

If for some reason she still resists, when you're out with her and you see a hb9/hb10 then tell your girl you're going to say hi to an old friend. Do some kind of opinion opener on the other girls, be nice and hug her goodbye. Your girl will get jelous and she will receive the message to not fuck around cause you can get hot bitches whenever you want. If she's not yours by then, I will be shocked lol...always maintain a strong frame, be fun, cool, not needy and nothing she does or says gets to you. Do all this, and you are almost guaranteed that things will go well.

I'm still working on my kiss closes but I have gotten a few. I'll give you an outline and not how to actually do it because that is up to you.

What I understood about women is that they will put up barriers that you need to overcome. Like what she is telling you about not wanting to kiss (a shit test is you wish to call it that way) or taking control of what is going to happen. She know she has you, in a good way. The thing is, you have to dismantle any possible resistance she may offer beforehand. Like telling her you are going to hold her hand but warn her not to get any ideas because you are not that easy. Or teasing her if she touches you that she's going too far. Change her frame, make it yours. You could invite her to your house to show her your pet but tell her that only for fifteen minutes because you have to wake up early to go to church. Small requests, then go for big actions. She wants that, but doesn't want to feel responsible for anything, that is why she puts resistance and will agree to small requests. Of course, once you are in the house (or holding her hand or about to kiss her) throw another warning that nothing is gonna happen and then go for it.
There are routines for kiss closes, chose one, invent yours or improvise. Be creative.
You HAVE to be willing to lose her... if you really want to be with her

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