...and are they consistent?

I hear about guys having one night stands and meeting girls and taking them home that night but I have a hard time believing that happens much. It seems like the girls I have seduced take many times of hanging out before they will have sex with me. What is your opinion?

3-4 hours live interaction if based of internet pre-gaming. Mostly one date closes.

If meet at bar or off street it would average 5-7 hours

I tend to use incessant attraction building and introducing the sexual frame pretty fast, this sacrifices some rapport and comfort.

Note that mysterys non-fools mate is 7 hours but hes basing that on 9's and 10's. Im usually around HB7's so you can generally close those faster in my experience then when I go after 9-10's.

Oh and finally , you should start believing that this indeed happens a lot, I close girls fast as I put out the sexual vibe that tells them "this is the kind of guy that fucks girls like me fairly quickly". Having said that, I promise you there are a lot of guys on this forum fucking more and hotter chicks then I am. Watch you self limiting beliefs. Sex with chicks is all about the Pareto Curve/Power law. 20% of the guys are fucking 80% of the woman and the top 20% of those guys are fucking 80% more then the other 80% of the top 20%

that's called "game" and being a PUA, its not like UFO's and Bigfoot, they do exist

word.

detox75,

thanks for the great reply!!! I've been looking for an answer from someone who actually does quick pick ups, thanks so much

Cheers mate,
-JC

No problem,

I really want to emphasis that there are some extremely odd heuristics that happen with pick up. If you operate under a normal mindset with normal behaviors and treat woman like most normal guys do, given the mores set by tte mainstream media you will have a small modicum of success with woman given X amount of effort.

for those that understand the "game" you can get 10x as many woman much faster with the same X of effort by being skilled. Having "game" in an exponential advantage not a linear one.

Woman respond in very odd ways to guys with game as opposed to "good" guys.