Hello folks this is my first post and I've just started getting into the game recently. I think I have a solid social game and minimal approach anxiety but I seem to have problems closing.

On saturday night I went to a Halloween kegger with a friend in Toronto. When I got there she left me to go do some blow (drugs aren't my thing). I couldn't care less since I'm quite social anyway. I ran my game, chatted up groups of people, DHV'd and pretty soon was making new friends left right and centre.

Later I found a HB 8, negged her, gave a FTC, ignored her for the first 5-8 minutes and finally gave her the handwriting analysis. When I was done she gave me the doggy dinner-bowl look and I knew it was on. The HB8 gave me her email address and her facebook contact and repeated constantly for me to add her. I knew it was on so I took the paper with her details, leaned in and tried to kiss her... but she didn't turn to kiss me so I shifted and lay one down on her cheek instead. I quickly started talking about something else to take her mind off the moment (2 steps forward 1 step back) and then finally asked "help me out here, tell me why am I drawn to you? You need to legitimize this for me..." She blushed, smiled and looked away and said "umm... I dunno". At this point my friend came back and we had to leave because we were sharing a cab. However as I was leaving I looked at her she was frozen like a deer caught infront of headlights. She eventually came out of her trance and repeated one more time with enthusiasm "add me!".

The next day I did add her in the evening and by monday morning (today) she accepted and I read her profile and finally understood why she resisted the kiss, she had a boyfriend and she has a photo of herself and him in the display photo.

My next plan is to write something with the 2 steps forward and one step back idea saying something like:
"Oh I see you work with sicks kids (judging from her profile), now I understand why I am drawn to you: you are kind and modest two traits that I find very important (strong IOI)! But.. your choice of music is quite the strange one what do you call it anyway (neg)?"

I'm not use to this facebook thing really it's too impersonal and easy to dismiss but she didn't give me a number. I do believe that it's important to improve one's game on every aspect and internet game should not be a field that's ignored. So please guys what would you guys do in this situation? How can I get a day 2 out of this one?

Internet game is good practice for normal night/day game in my opinion. Its like real life just easier; you can buy yourself time to reframe stuff, think of comebacks etc, theres no body language to worry about conveying...

If i were you, I would try and avoid facebook and get her msn or something, a lot of the time people have their msn addresses visible on their facebook profile so you can add them easily. if not, just say something like you dont really know how to use facebook, has she got msn or something instead Its much easier to game people on msn in my opinion (whilst writing this I am actually running game on a girl on msn who I just #closed whilst on the phone running game on an HB8 who refused to hang up after I cubed her until I told her my battery was running out). I say this not to show off how solid my game is (i'm no Style), but rather to show how much easier it is to internet/phone game. I would totally recommend anyone doing it to train their routines, neg hits, and pretty much element of game.

In your particular situation though mate, I strongly recommend getting her on msn and taking it from there. Generally I think its pretty easy to #close from an msn situation, you've had a lot more time to build up comfort and trust than you might have in the field or whatever and you probably wont have the same anxiety as you would normally have as you're disconnected from your target because its over the internet

Hope that helps bro

PS - if you do stick with the facebook approach, try kinoing her using Pokes If you get her on msn and you're running C/F game, playful nudges often work well too

Ah sweet thanks for the advice mate but what about the relationship status? How should that affect it all?

Well it depends on you personally mate. I know people who say they wouldn't try and take a girl off their boyfriend. On the other hand, if you do want to there can be a number of ways to do it. Ultimately I think it depends on how close/strong their relationship is and how solid your game is/how much you click with that girl.

If I were you, I'd get her msn, then try to DHV when you talk to her to a higher standard than that of her boyfriend. A good way to do this might be to Cube her or use a routine like that, whilst playing Cocky/Funny game, girls love ethis shit, and if you manage to do it well, she will probably be amazed that you can know so much about her despite having just met her (possibly a connection stronger than that she shares with her boyfriend). If you want to give yourself the edge with cold reading etc, you have the benefit of her facebook profile, you can see what shes interested in and can look at her photos and make inferences about her. Similarly, if you're going to undermine her boyfriend, you can look at his profile etc

Ultimately, just play your game as you would normally with particular care not to end up in the LJBF zone, there's plenty of material out there to help you avoid that

Aiite so I sent her a message on facebook 3 days after I met her basically saying stuff along the lines of:

- "Ah you are a leo and work at sick kids... we'd be great friends" (LJBF her first by DD)
- "I looked at your handwriting and saw more..." (hook)
- "anyway I'm off to boxing training, I'd give you my msn but I don't know if you're some crazy girl who'd send me a gazillion messages and nudge me all day so we'll keep it facebooky for now (more CF from DD) cya

The day after i wrote down what I've learnt about her handwriting (mind you, I'm getting pretty good at it) and got a reply within an hour!

This is the reply:

Hey Fortune,

Thanks for the messages. I'm glad we are able to keep in touch and become friends. I had a great time talking to you at the party that night.

I am indeed a Leo: very loyal, and very passionate.

Your hand-writing analysis has some strong truths. I appreciate the time you've spend analyzing it I dont know if I want to elaborate on what is correct (haha I think I'll let you get to know me, and decide for yourself what is true about my personality)

I wish I could analyze your hand-writing to make guesses at your personality. Perhaps you should just describe it to me haha

I hope you had fun at your party last night. I'm going to FearFest at Wonderland tonight, so I better get going.

Talk Soon,
HB8


Now that I've put her in the friend zone I've lowered her guard and have a much better chance as she'd be able to hang with me comfortably. I'm thinking about asking her out for a coffee sometime but before that I'm gonna throw some more CF her way but maybe in a day or two (keep her waiting .

So guys, any tips? are smiley faces IOIs?

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