I met an HB8 about three weeks ago at a bar. She was with a bachelorette party. After dancing near the group for a while and getting up in some drunk losers face after one of the girls asked him to go away, I reached my hand up and grabbed hers and we danced. I left and met up with her again twice that night and got her number at the end of the night. All conversation had been pretty interview-like, but I did make a special point to congratulate the bride to be in front of her on the way out and got a positive reaction from several of the other girls.

We went out to a blues club the next weekend. We talked the whole 3 hours or so we were there and danced to a couple of songs. The conversation remained rather interview-like, but I know a million things about her including many date ideas she would like. I've never dated a girl this pretty, and I could hardly keep my cool when I had my hands on her, but I did. At the end of the night, I went in to kiss her and she didn't back away, but she did not kiss back, I went in again and she said "not on the first date" with a smile. I said "ok, well, i had a really great time" she said the same and I left.

We went to a movie two days later. there was no physical contact and not much conversation until I was walking her home after the movie. I felt awkward about having been denied the kiss, so I didn't go in for another one. When I said goodnight outside her place, she pulled me in and kissed me for about a minute. She seemed very excited about the idea of seeing me again. I haven't seen her sense, its been two and a half weeks. she's a very busy girl: she's in grad school full time and working 30 hours a week at a job. She's had friends in town both of the last two weekends and we have no time to meet during the week. She calls me back when I leave a message. I called her last wednesday and she called me back the next day and left a message saying she couldn't hang out until maybe sunday because of the friends in town, I decided to wait to hear from her again, but she hasn't called. Is there anything I can do at this point or should I just cut my losses? Also, do you have any critiques? (obviously I need help with my conversations with women, which is why I'm here, I'm new to this forum)

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the greek

send her a text like "hey hb, I just saw *something we talked about that most people wouldn't* and thought of you... btw, guess where I'm at!"

she should say some shit like "haha, idk"... then tell her somewhere awesome (even if you're not) and that she should have come. She'll say you should have invited her, you say "hmm... well I'm doing *something fun* on *day*, you wanna go? If she says she's busy... I dunno... Try to fuck one of her friends.

man u aint lost her at all.. u were being denide the first kiss because she was playing hard to get. as for needing help with your convo skills ... thats wot we r here for.

it seems to me that u have hit the jackpot as an AFC. but if u study how to become a PUA then u will realise that she isnt that bigger deal. beauty is a card u either have it or u dont. by the sounds of it she is really nice and u have the change to get her.. dont ask her wot she is doing on a certain dauy just say to her 'u ARE coming out with me next week'. learn how to become alpha and u need to gain confidence..

i was an AFC 6 months ago and i would have done exactly the same things as u did but u have to learn the ways of picking up the girls u want.... start reading blogs form the PUGs like tyler and Juggler and Sinn.. David DeAngeloe, mystery and style... buy 'the game' by neil strauss (style) and 'the mystery method' by mystery. read ross jefferys books... they are all brill for learnin how to talk and act around women.

if u want more advice then pm me..

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