I always had this trouble. I always felt that I had to take her somewhere special or do something amazing. What an AFC I was! I realized that if I treat her like one of the guys in the aspect of just going with the flow and being cheezy and not caring works the best. Now, of course you do have a plan, and you are doing everything for a reason, but to her, it just seems like you guys are two best friends hanging out. I also like to bounce her from place to place on the first date. Not a billion and one places of course.

For instance, I took a girl out yesterday. When I timebridged her on the phone, all I told her was what to wear. She showed up at the Quad at the college here in town, and we played frizbe for an hour, with me doing the attraction phase and building into comfort all over again. After I had her in c-1, we bounced to a coffee shop to build more comfort. Then we just walked around the town at night, pretending to be the people in the cars and have our own little world going on that night.

Just keep it light and fresh. Make her think that she's known you for years and act as if you are being spontaneous. Sorry this was so long guys...lol.

Yeah Choggs is right your much more likely to get a K close at night

Yeah, keep it SIMPLE and fun. Don't take her to a fancy restaurant, or a movie, or ANYTHING that communicates to her "THIS IS A DATE".

If she thinks it's a date, she will get all formal, prudish, and tight-assed on you.

Go places you like. The shopping idea is GREAT. dress each other up. I prefer to have her dress ME up so she can touch me, then she's more receptive to kino, hugging in the fitting room, etc. Have fun with it, pretend you're married, make up silly shit!

Change venues lots of times, make sure you have scouted out some interesting nearby venues ahead of time, so you can do playful kino and teasing in a situational context. Again, these venues are not the MAIN point of the day 2. They "just happened" to come up - that's what you WANT HER TO THINK. That's what makes women comfortable.

Whatever you do, don't make it serious and formal. And if you hang out at the beach, do NOT muse about finding your soul mate while looking at the sunset on the waves. You're not trying to find your soul mate, you're trying to seduce the woman. "Soul mate" makes you look desperate - it's okay for a girl to have such daydreams of a prince charming - these are very FEMININE thoughts, but a guy doing it looks insecure and WORTHLESS in her eyes!