Haha, ok so bacially I'm a complete failure, have no idea what I'm doing, and have an ego problem and I should just give up? Does that just about sum up everything you've said?

From what I'm seeing you're not getting anywhere with this girl. What does success look like to you?---do you want to be her friend or do you what to get some. She's inviting other guys to come on your dates not good at all. She's inviting other guys because she knows you're not about nothing you're not the type of guy whose going give the best time of her life on a date or in the bedroom. You haven't even kissed her yet.

You are beyond Mystery's 1 hour rule of not making any move to show your sexual interest. beyond and 1 hour your dangerously in the friend zone you've spent over 7+ with this girl. Hugging is nothing friends hug. Friends don't makeout with eachother or have sex. You're still a nice-guy you don't want to push the boundaries with this girl. Alphamales push boundaries like picking his girl up giving her a kiss in front of other people just because u can. Push boundaries also means not being scared to pull her draws down and whip your dick out(I'm not joking)--thats only option you got left at this point--If you don't make your move now i guarantee someone like Jock Boy will. Your going to have to break through the nice guy and become a bad boy PUA

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AAhhh, the wording I was looking for. Thanks Southern.

Hassler it looks like you're about to buried under that huge avalanche known as the Friend Zone.
I'm curious to know what success looks like for you also???
reading this thread you dont seem to want ass till the end of the semester WTF!!!!!
like Cross and Tripp said you're being a really really Nice Guy.
Nice Guy's finish last I don't care if you have a PUA book in front of you that's taught u how to be cocky &funny blah blah. What your lacking here is guts to push forward you still haven't shaken the nice guy persona. You don't yet seem to understand the way this material works your just a nice guy with a PUA book
Pay close atttention to the part about what it means to be Alpha and the part where u need to whip your dick out

I'll going to straight out tell u, her inviting guys on a date especially without your prior knowledge is not a good sign. She's thinking Hmm lets see I'm going on a date with 'no action Hassler' maybe these other guys can keep me entertained What would you have done if the guys didn't come to the movies---my guess u you wouldn't have made any sexual advances to show ur interested in her as more than just a friend.
You have wasted valuable time and you've made the mistake of thinking she's way into you. I dont think she is.

and seems like your just rejecting help from people on this site. So your act together or lose this girl

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So u think you can handle this?

Some common mistakes by the Hassler here:

1) Thinking you are Alpha

It's apparent in your interactions with the girl and the AMOG that you are indeed not alpha. Telling yourself and others you are alpha doesn't cut it. This guy came up and grabbed your girl and took her for 30 mins. Then he pulled you aside and he told you his intentions....LOL THAT is alpha son.
Trust me, this girl doesn't see you as Alpha one bit. In fact, she sees the jock guy as alpha. He pretty much had his way with you and her.


2) Thinking you are having success with this chick

By NO means are you having ANY success with this chick. Walking around with her is not a DHV to her. You have to get her interested in you and you do that by DHVing through stories and other means. Has she even given you any IOIs? Having other dudes come on "dates"? Not good.

3) You are ignoring and excusing all the signs

There are many signs out there to tell you where you are headed, and you refuse to see them. (even with our help) You keep excusing things and acting delusional about the whole situation. You saying "she is into you" doesn't make it so. When she starts giving you head, then you can make t hat statement, until then.........she isn't into you as much as you think. Hell, girls can kiss and make out with a guy and still not "be into them".

4) Making excuses for your inability to act

Sounding cocky and confident doesn't make you confident. Sad thing is though, people can see through you as well via your body language and by how you say things. There are a lot of people that act like they are confident, but have the lowest self esteems you can imagine. Women see through this act, and it'll blow your game before you can even start. That shit you said about not wanting to talk to them for fear of being awkward throughout the rest of the year? Bullshit! That shit you said about not taking advantage of her because she was too drunk? Bullshit. Does telling yourself these fallacies help you cope with the failure? Just curious. I for one would rather know what the fuck I'm doing wrong and correct it for future experiences.

I agree with the other poster's comments about this situation. You are just a NICE GUY with some knowledge of PUA. I think first and foremost you need to work on your inner game. (aka...being alpha) Then you need to take this information you've learned and apply it in the field. Some of it will seem unnatural due to the AFC ways we've known our whole life, but in time it'll flow and things will click.


In conclusion. If your inner game isn't strong, none of this PUA stuff will matter. PUAs have strong inner game, and AFCs do not. Which one do you want to be in?

Just change your handle to McLovin. Or Fagle. Whatever your preference may be. Cuz I bet you totally told that girl what time it was.

Ok, I Think you've all told him how bad he is enough times now. We all get the point, I hope he does aswell. Some of you have posted constructive criticism thats good. Those of you who just want to abuse him, go rub one out or something. We shouldnt be lowering his self esteem anymore.

Personally, i just think Hasslers problem, is with confidence and self image. Get that all into proper perspective (not husslers perspective, conventional perspective). You need SOI's and Heavy kino, and dont be afraid to discipline her about inviting other guys on your dates. That behaviour is not on, and when she fixes it reward her with a decent serving of your cock.

I hope you arent too blind to see that we're all tring to help.

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What a title!

Thanks everyone who posted constructive criticism. I've been thinking about all that you guys have said and I can now improve my game dramatically. I basically just said screw it with that 1 chick, cuz I think I was in the LJBF Zone. So I'll just stop talking to her. But 2day I went sarging by myself at the mall and picked up a hired gun. She was an HB 7.5, and 29 and Italian. I'm only 18.
I'm best at the actual pick up, and need a lot more work on Day 2's. And your guys' posts should help out a lot.

What should I have done if she rejected me? Just laugh at her like she's my 6 year old sister?

Ok, first of all your way too cocky. If you were a real alpha you wouldve fucked the girl already and not be posting on this site. You just think think too much of yourself but you have no action. I think your just a pussy. Your def not an alpha from what i read from your post. If a guy comes up to you and you give him your girl what would that girl think of you? Would she want to be with a guy that cant even defend himself? Alphas arent pussies and stand up for their women.

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Learn from my mistake...If a girl is interested in you and your interested in her, get her number before you get drunk.

OP,

it's kinda like poker where everyone thinks they're 5x better than they ACTUALLY are. You've got this to an extreme. Read their posts again and try to internalize what SouthernCross, LA Tripp, etc were writing. They're not being asses, but rather helping.

Pretty much. I wouldn't say obnoxiously laughing though. More like the attitude of . . . you're annoying, go play now. It doesn't bother you because she's just an annoying little pest, so let her go have her fun. You will find more QUALITY fun elsewhere. THAT'S the attitude you need to have next time you're in a similar situation.

My question is what should he have done to stop the jock from taking her away? Should he have followed or just straight walked up after a minute and took her back?

Well, you see, what the jock did is exactly what a PUA should do. He became "buddy buddy" with the PUA that posted this. See, that disarms the AMOG's of the group, by befriending them. So, what this PUA should have done would be to neg the jock and DHV himself, using something the jock said. That should have thwarted the jock's taking of the girl. If that didn't immediately work (which it should), then he should have befriended the jock, invited the jock to sit down with them just for a minute and join the convo, but not allow the jock to sit between him and the girl. In other, words, he should have taken immediate control of the situation, instead of letting the jock take control.