Basically I am new to the pickup thing, in the past I was undisciplined and just got lucky a few times, now I can easily approach women and for the most part they just wanna kiss me and can't stop all night.
I don't know why, but I can't get them interested after the initial night.
My guess is they feel they were just caught up in the moment and had fun.

My real problem is I can get a phone number, spend the tongue wrestling and the next week, there's no interest from them. I havn't developed my game enough to get sex on the first night or anything, so I'm really stuck.

Fed up of just kissing girls, it's getting boring.
Do you think I shouldn't let them kiss me, or at least let them a little bit and then back off, let them chase me some more??

I'm usually not a one night stand guy, so I don't know too much about closing the first night. But I do however build up a decent foundation so most, if not all the girls agree to see me again.

I have a few theories on why.

It's important to build up kino, and keep escalating. But do it in a way, so that she does not know whether you want to sleep with her or not (gambler spoke of this in his video). I do alot of kino, eye contact, smiles, etc. without going for the kiss right away. Makes her think - "does this guy want me?" instead of "this guy wants to sleep with me, do I want to sleep with him?"

The other thing I'm always doing is DHV. I'm lucky to have alot of girls that are just friends, smart and attractive girls. When other girls see me just going over and getting hugs and attention from several girls, it automatically puts me in higher value. So make "girl" friends, as much as possible, they can be your best wingman.

If I really like a girl, I bring her out and let her meet all my friends, on the second or third date. They are all very including, so she feels welcome. When she sees that I'm a social person of importance, it totally turns her on to get more serious.

I'm not an expert yet, but I hope that you find my thoughts and experiences usefull.

Good Luck
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I am interested the ratio of what PUA get during one night in the field.
This would include numbers, kissing, sex.

I want to know if most of them get sex within the first night of meeting, I imagine the better looking guys accomplish this easier, because they look the part.
But then I imagine they don't need to pick up girls, because girls come to them.

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First off, how old are you, and the girls you are gaming?
Gaming a 17yr old and a 25yr old, are two very different things.

Second, looks is not what makes guys attractive to girls. Girls look for excitment, a challange, a leader, a person of importance. I know this to be a fact, from my own experiences. Off course you have to work some for your look. Hit the gym, take a tan, wear somewhat fashionable clothes, and be well groomed. But besides that, looks is not that important.

Study some PUA literature. If you want to succeed you have to work for it, go into the field as much as possible. Study your faults and successes, and study others.

That dude is right about looks - if you make the effort to make the most of what you got, looks dont matter to girls.

If you are getting a lot of initial attraction and then nothing after, you have the same problem I had. First, its not all about f-closing on the first date, so forget about that. There are plenty of high quality girls who would, but there are plenty who wouldn't too, so don't limit yourself to fewer possibilities. You never know who you will find.

Whatever you're doing in the beginning is working, so keep doing that. Towards the end you probably should be doing more and more of other things that give you value and not just rushing in for make-outs.

Do what feels right of course, but if she thinks you're just a physical make-out machine and nothing else, she's going to lose interest.

One big thing - start asking her about herself, in a way that sounds like you're seeing how many ticks she's getting on your check-list. To do that, come up of a list of things you want in a girl (that will come with experience) and then ask questions tha expose those traits, for example, one trait I look for is a body focus - do you care about it, make the most of it, hopefully you have no body hang ups - so I direct the conversation in a way that let's me ask her questions like - do you like dancing / would you try, have you been to a nude beach / would you try... Etc. That also crosses over into my other requirement that she has to be as exteremely extroverted as possible, and so on.

You can talk about past relationships sometimes, well I have - sometimes I've asked what's the best sex you've ever had, thats always a fun topic, it gets them back to that point in time and gets them all excited.

But yeah, you need to start working on their mind now, making them intrigued, feel good, and mentally aroused.

I am 23.

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