I did two approaches today. I am a contract worker for a company that services products in big box retailers... anyways...

I was in Wal-Mart and I have started using a "double approach" - first I ask a department worker a question... directions or something and then I walk off... but come back a few minutes later and run the "ESP Routine"

I didn't get either number right w/ the first girl a cute thin, african-american chick with curly hair HB7 i'd say... She enjoyed the approach - but I gave her my name and she didn't reciprocate... IOD? But as I left she thanked me... for what I'm not sure... =/

The second store I was in there was a NB6 - big girl, with a tooth gap - but Mystery says to hit on lots of ugly girls - gotta learn to deal with obstables, right?
Same "ESP Routine" - but this time it worked and she was very happy - but again I told her my name and introduced myself - but she didn't give me her name... IOD again?? Seems unlikely...

I don't know if I should just keep practicing my openers... or if I should add on the "Rings Routine" and start working on my stack...?

Both approaches were very sexually stimulating for me... to put it politely... I love being able to finally just talk to a girl... and can't wait to start getting D2's and f closes out of this... but I know it's going to take time and practice...

Any suggestions..?

Lovecraft

1. Make sure you are not stacking routines after routines.

2. make sure you sell the routine. There is a subtle difference between taking value with routine and giving value. You need to give value.

3. You need to learn how to vibe with girls. Do not rapidfire routines or keep doing them. From opening to closing, most of the pick up is gonna be improvising rather then using routine.

I would suggest taking a step back. Besides the opener, the rest of your conversation should be non scripted. No routine. Once you get decent at that, go back and start using routines. It will make a huge difference in your game. Also, when you don't use routines, you will find really good oppurtunity to throw those routines in there just from the conversation. Go ahead and throw them in in those situation. It will come across as completly natural and not try hard.

Overall, routines need to be used to supplement your game rather then tactics to get women.

I am using the routines, because I don't know what to say in the first place... How should I improvise? Should I ask interview questions and try to make fluff talk?

Why shouldn't I stack routines and fire them out there... Isn't it good to be interesting?

I got approached by an HB8 at the bar last night and fluff talked about books, but then ran dry - I was afraid to use the ESP Routine on her and all that kept coming to mind was "Are you from around here?"

SERIOUSLY!!?? That's all I could think of and refused to ask her that because I thought it was TOO LAME!!

How should I go about this?


Lovecraft...

Mystery Method:

A1 'Attract': you have to open a girl, use a routine, find a social hook point.

A2 'M-to-F': Negs, DHV, kino a bit

A3 'F-to-M'; screening/qualifying by her.

A routine is no more than opening, still you need to keep her attracted to talk, feel comfortable, you have to show some DHV, being not needy.

One tip: use a false time-constraint in your game, before you ask her number.

not gonna argue.

But know this, pick up is a very long and tough to learn process. But fun. To get better, you have to take a step back before you go forward.

also kino is big part too... and if you go for the number too quick that can make her give you a IOD or if your giving her too mucu value whe she has not earned it, that can make her give you IOD's as well