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PostPosted: Thu May 05, 2011 3:29 pm 
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First of all: "Hi" isn't as easy as people make it out to be. It's also not as innocent.

I've attempted the newbie mission a number of times. I've been working on my game for a number of years, and some elemens are really solid. Others, like AA and Kino, are weak. I have trouble initiating these things.

So I've tried the newbie mission, and I still have trouble saying "Hi" to hot women. I can generally say it to just about everyone else, but when it comes to attractive women, the words don't come out of my mouth. I do smile, and I can usually maintain eye contact, but sometimes my eyes do go down. I get a little bit better at it as time goes on, but I've tried this multiple time over the course of years, and it hasn't helped approach anxiety much.

It's also gotten me into trouble. That friendly "hi" turned into a neighbor boring a cigarette, into sharing a joint, into them showing up at your porch drunk at night. Some people it just does not pay to be friendly with. I also have this fear of leading on women I am not attracted to. I don't know why. It's like when you're at a strip club, and you conciously avoid locking eyes with strippers you aren't attracted to. You don't want them coming over. You certainly don't want to pay for a drink. I feel the same way when I approach, say, a fat girl. If I were to say hi to her, the worst think I think she could do would be to stop and start talking to me. I guess I'm just not very good at gracefully removing myself from that situation. I guess I could flirt and practice game, but girls like that can get stuck pretty quickly. I feel bad when I lead people on.

Any suggestions on what I can do to continue working on my AA?


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PostPosted: Thu May 05, 2011 3:44 pm 
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Are you doing daygame since you are so afraid? Im pretty weak in day game too I have done only 15 daygame aproaches(all of which today and thuesday) but I start warm up from asking directions to random places my goal would be to able to go in direct but I cant do it yet.

In night I dont have that much AA I just aproach with random openers I have done about 65 night game openers. I started doing night game month ago.

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PostPosted: Thu May 05, 2011 3:51 pm 
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Yeah, I do mostly day game. I don't have a wing and I don't really care for bars. I could deal with bars, but sarging alone is nearly impossible. Sarging alone certainly doesn't help AA at all.

I've approached virtually no body. I am occasionally able to talk to someone in line, or have some random conversation start, but nothing ever really becomes of it. There have been a couple of times this last week where eye contact was made, and I knew I had an opening to approach, but I did not take it. In one case, I locked eyes with an attractive but slightly overweight single at the grocery store. I had a feeling that if I walked up to her and started talking to her, she would have been responsive. But I didn't do it, and then I started crafting scenarios in my head which further kept me from doing anything. Funny enough, all the scenarios I created in my head were positive (I imagined her being responsive and happy to talk to me), and I still couldn't do it.


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PostPosted: Thu May 05, 2011 4:09 pm 
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First of all - that whole "hi" thing is just to get you used to approaching people.... it's meant to be done on people you don't know and don't have any association to- like someone in the street. Saying hi to your neighbor basically means "nice to meet you let's hang out"... it's not really in the spirit of the exercise.

Secondly, "hi" is only one word, even if you feel AA with a good looking girl, force yourself to say that ONE word- you'll see it's not any different than saying it to anyone else, but you have to go through it for yourself. DONT think about what to do after because you are just focusing on that ONE WORD right now. Just walk away after if you are uncomfortable... it's all about baby steps :)


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PostPosted: Thu May 05, 2011 4:12 pm 
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Also - in the effort of baby steps, having to walk across a room to approach someone causes WAY more anxiety than necessary. Position yourself so it isn't such an insurmountable task for you. ie. in the grocery store, go up and take something from the shelf right next to where the girl is standing like you needed it anyway... and THEN say hi. Walking across the room would be tough for just about anybody! haha


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PostPosted: Thu May 05, 2011 4:19 pm 
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Baby steps are fine, but what about when I find myself unable to take those steps? That attractive chick at the grocery store, I smiled and locked eyes with her, but the words "Hi" didn't come out of my mouth. I was distinctly on a newbie mission as I have been virtually every time I've gone out for the last two weeks. There's just times when I can't say hi. I think I feel too vulnerable or something, and the word just come out.

Also, when do the training wheels come off? Obviously, I'm not ready if I can't even say hi to specific people, but how does one begin to bridge "Hi" into an actual approach. I've noticed that sometimes it happens organically, which is great. Often it doesn't, and organic conversation is usually little more than small talk. If I'm finding myself in these situations, shouldn't I be doing something about it? Or should I still just be focused on saying hi?


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PostPosted: Thu May 05, 2011 4:23 pm 
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I just quote myself here in order to not write it all over again:
Quote:
DISCOMFORT=GROWTH
Only when you step over your line of comfort you can grow. And in this mission I learned that this is totally true!

What could you lose?
NOTHING!
What you could earn?
A LIFE!

So if you approach somebody and you get blown out, who cares?
You don't know them and probably won't ever see them again.
JUST DO IT! If you approach a HB and she directly reacts negatively then it's not your fault! Then she might just be a bitch and not the kind of person you would like to hang out with anyway!


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PostPosted: Thu May 05, 2011 4:59 pm 
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Right - it's really just a numbers game. the more you approach, the less anxious you will be. Every person is in a different place in their lives. Sometimes, the girl you go up to is just not in the mood to talk no matter what you do. Sometimes, it's the best possible timing... the numbers all work out in the long run and if she doesn't react well- it's not always about something you did. The older I become (30), the more I realize that everything is about timing. When you find someone that makes you anxious, that's a GOOD thing because it means you actually want to talk to her. There is really no good substitute for experience- you just need to go for it- I promise it won't hurt like you think it will!! haha

I saw a challenge post on here, I can't remember who posted it, but the goal was to go out and get rejected from kissing 25 girls. Result: it's amazing how hard it is to get rejected! Girls will go with the flow more often than you might work it up to be in your head- remember that ;)


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PostPosted: Thu May 05, 2011 6:41 pm 
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yep, sometimes the girls are just not comfortable in the venue and that's why you shouldn't approach them till they are.

Especially about the mission. I did this for 3 times in a row now. I went to the mall and started smalltalk and even tried day-game. I do this mission everywhere I go and not just when I go to the place in order to do the mission.
And I really like being that genuine friendly guy and approach people and often their reaction is friendly. But there are two things I realized.
First; it's easier for me to approach women
Second; I hate day-game, it's just not my style. I like having conversation and small-talk to strangers but completely without any intensions.

Another great advice from DJ Fuji in order to connect with your post, jruler;

Go out to a bar and club and kino escalate reaaaaally hard. Touch her everywhere, GET SLAPPED! Because you don't know how far you can go until you crossed the line! I will totally do that tomorrow night :D


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