I know there's probably been tons of threads like this before, but i would like to learn a few more up to date techniques.

I would like to know if you guys would like to share what is working for you at the moment. What is your best method of opening? Do you use a time constraint, negs etc. Its not so much the material i would like to learn but the method as well. Old school can be read i would like to know what people are coming up with in the field right now that is working.

Look forward to some good responses...

Trickster

personally i don't like to use time-constraints.
imo you can convey the fact very clearly with body language and some nlp techniques that you aren't going to be staying very long.

i only throw out time contraints when i need to leave--when i feel that she is not worthy of my valuable time anymore (and i like to make that clear)

<interrupt her mid-sentence>
"yeahh... so.. I'm going to the bathroom, i'll talk to you later"

for me i never ever ever start like this

"hey i need you opinion on something....."

never ever ever never will you find me saying that

i like to use situational approaches, i usually dont find myself using time constraints, but i do neg alot, sometimes without thinking about it because thats my personality

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Ice - have you got any example situational approaches?

isn't a situational approach something like the classic "did you guys see that fight?" I use these a lot when there is something interesting to talk about that actually happened (there usually is). Oftentimes there really is a fight and I always laugh when I use that line because it sounds so cliche, but hell, it really happened.

Sundi - Once you've said hey did you see that and they've said yes i would feel a little strange just breaking out into conversation with the set, what do you do?

I really agree with ice there too. I i ever was going to go right into a set with the purpose of asking a question though i usually will skip the whole "Hey i need your opinion on something" I Just walk right up and start asking questions. But you have to be able to thread them well and be quick because with the question game you can get caught up in the your creeping me out phase real quick.

give me a situation and i will make one up

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If im understanding correctly then how about these, really drunk guy, gf and bf having a rowdy argument, slutty girls dirty dancing.

that's why situation openers aren't the best. It is dependent on the situation and what happened in order to decide what you say next. this game takes practice, but also requires thinking on your toes. you can get out in the field and learn what to expect when you have just asked a girl a question or told a story or ran a routine. sometimes a girl will say something you are not ready for and you need to be creative. the reason good pickup artists are good is because they have experience and/or they think well on their toes. So there isn't an answer to your question. Just pick a routine, go out and run it on as many people as you can and pretty soon you'll see that similar things keep happening and you will get better at handling that same responses as well as get practice in thinking on your toes.

if you are going to run routines and canned stuff, then take that risk

i have no problems with routines, but i wouldnt use anything that has been mainstream

that means nothing from the tv show or the game, that cancels out alot which is why i rarely run routines unless the time calls for it

like i went to the mall with a girl the other week, i ran the camera routine where you take different pictures leading up to a kiss on the cheek, but i didnt use a digital camera, i used one of those camera booths

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I'd rather go out swinging than strike out looking.
A lifestyle is a terrible thing to waste.
What I say when I see her is what I'll say.