So I have no A.A. in terms of approaching a women.
When me and my friend Infinite (other PUA in training) went sarging at the mall, I was absolutely hesitant, I had A.A. in that moment. But I recognize that it's a specific type of A.A.
This is not the fear of talking to her, it's what to say and thinking I'ma sound stupid. This was detrimental, I brought the energy levels down, I needed to have more energy (should of faked it). I was messing up Infinite's game just on my energy level. Hell, at one point the only thing I could think of was stocks, I was about to open a girl to ask her opinion on stocks and I realized that was just stupid and stopped myself.
Not to make this a field report, but I did engage 2 women while they were on the job. Infinite said that I was getting IOI's from one and that I was intriguing her. I felt as if I was being an interviewer. I'll put the dialog as a reply to this post to get thoughts.
At the end of it, Infinite sent me on a mission to kill the A.A. forevermore. He sent me into Victoria Secret, find the hottest looking helper there, and tell her that I was going to have a 3-some with my girl and a mystery friend, and my girl wanted me to buy some sexy clothes for the occasion. At first I was sissying out; in addition, there weren't really hot babes in there. Infinite pushed me back in, and I did find a HB. Somehow it was much more comfortable asking the HB then considering to ask any other helper (mind you no other helpers were higher than 5's). I did it, I got it out of the system, even had a bit of fun with it.

I want to be natural so I'm trying to avoid canned openers. I happen to like "who lies more," so I'm not letting that go. But I want to do more observational openers.

Thanks for reading,
Trick

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Once upon a time a king was walking down a mountain looking down upon all below. As he came to the bottom and was at eye level with all, he still looked down upon them

Bonus. Dialog with girl at cell phone stand.

TRICK: Hey how are you, do you have any cell phone cases for this type of phone?
GIRL: No
TRICK: Oh I set how it is, only got black berry cases and iphone cases huh. What type of phone do you have?
GIRL: Blackberry
TRICK: Ah, lets you do all your school stuff and everything you need to do huh?
GIRL: Yup
TRICK: So what are you doing in school? What course you taking?
GIRL: (local college), studying psychology
TRICK: Oh so that means you can read my my mind huh?
GIRL: (laughs), no
TRICK: Oh but you'll be able to do that later huh
GIRL: yeah
TRICK: Well it was nice meeting you (eject)
GIRL: same

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Once upon a time a king was walking down a mountain looking down upon all below. As he came to the bottom and was at eye level with all, he still looked down upon them

We all get AA. as mystery would say its hardwired into us but the difference is that a pua barrels thru it because they know the rewards


Its good that you have a mate that can push you out of your comfort zones. What you really did in Victoria's Secret imo was get out of that comfort zone and warm up. and what i hope that you are learning is that it is more about the mentality you have towards the approach than the actually approach. it becomes alot easier in the right mentality

As for not talking to the HB 5's, why not? Imo the best state to be in for PU is a talkative state. We can get in talkative states by warming up. so when you go out again and feel AA, warm up by opening a couple sets so when that HB 10 comes walking by you be in the right frame of mind to walk up and talk to her

As for being a natural, i too share the same goal of becoming a natural but i think natural game comes from when you have a deeper understanding of the game. and as a Apua i am using canned openers so that i can work on the delivery and not so much focus on what to say next. from my exp AA disappears when you actually do the approach and turns more into "what am i gonna say next?"

i like natural game i just dont think its the best to start with for beginner puas. in the convo you opened and then did what most AFCs do barrage her with a bunch a yes or no questions. when she said that she had a blackberry i think you could have used that to take the convo in a better direction than "it lets you do school stuff blah blah"

i think it would have better to say something like " oh my mom warned about people who have blackberries". the idea here is to tease her on something rather keep asking questions and if you are gonna keep asking questions practice turning questions into statements it creates much more stimulating conversation

Anyway hope my advice helps and that keep going out there and approaching because thats the only way to get better