A couple times in that last 2 days I have picked up that I am accidentally over exciting the obstacle. Is there a PUA out there who knows what I mean and can help. For all i know this could be a DHV and I just don't know it. Please just walk me through this from the begining if you would.

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Can you elaborate a little more please?

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Certainly, I was a little pressed for time and didn't elaborate as much as I would have liked. What I am trying to say is that I am inadvertently building attraction with obstacles. I think this may be developing stress in the social dynamic between members in the set.

Example:

I was at a coffee shop and immediately was drawn to a target behind the counter. I opened with something happy and positive. The obstacle (who happened to be her manager) was beaming but the target said something semi negative. I threw a neg "Is she always this bitter?" and moved to talking about how much money I spend on coffee and how I could probably have a new car with the money. It's some passable canned material I came up with for coffee shops. Anyway the social dynamic sucked. It seemed like I was getting 1000 IOIs from the obstacle while the target backed off to clear the way. Perhaps this was because of the social dynamic between boss and employee? deferral to the leader type thing. Now that I have had a chance to think I also remember that I know better than to neg very much in my day game. Perhaps the neg threw the dynamic down a spiral.

Haha asked for more detail and got an ebook.

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Haha, first I think you have it spot on,, I think the employee, your target got fazed by her manager's present, especially being an employee, and we all know, work comes first, especially in public sectors.

Neg's don't work as great in day game, especially in a busy place, because she may have taken it as a knock back, if that makes sense?

Just ease up on the neg's, or do them differently.

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Ha Great post. having similar problems.
Actually picked up the 2 hottest babes in a club on the weekend. One was a 10 and one was a 9. I had them on the couch i was sititng in the middle running game and had about 5 AFCs looking on and I could read their minds, "how the fuck is he with them.". Don't ya love the game?

Anyway, I'd love to stop bragging but something even more amazing happened. The two girls started to fight over me. One turned to me and even said "you're making us do this" I just told them i wanted everyone to be friends.

So a little later I isolated the 10 she said 2 things
1) I thought you were gay
and
2) oh i thought u liked me friend

I passed the shit tests and we hooked up

The friend was PISSED tho
she left the club and me and HB10 followed back to their hotel room
both of them nearly punched on.
We get back to the hotel room HB 9 is being a big sook then says shes gona leave us alone. HB 10s mood is pretty shit right now coz her friend is being a sooky bitch, which ultimately meant we just fell asleep with no action.

When you open a 2 set and Just DHV it's possible both girls will like you. But isolating one and kiss closing without offending or pissing off the obstacle (who has attraction for you too) is a mighty challenge. If you are winning attraction when they are both there then how do you slowly kill off the interest of the obstacle so she won't feel jealous is you kiss her friend or wateva. Jealousy is a big bitch and jealous girls are even worse

Hopefully we will get the attention of an MPUA to help us on this. It has really been a problem and none of my reading material seems to cover this. Maybe I just need a wing that can keep up with me.

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I hope so, I'm very stuck. A wing is the ultimate solution. I tried introducing the obstacle to some friends but they aren't pua so lost her attention